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Posted 2010-October-06, 09:03

Scoring: MP

(1♠) 2♠ (4♠) ?

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Posted 2010-October-06, 09:21

Pass.

edit: that took me about 2 seconds.
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Posted 2010-October-06, 09:30

hanp, on Oct 6 2010, 04:21 PM, said:

that took me about 2 seconds.

In tempo after a jump bid being after 10 seconds, right?
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Posted 2010-October-06, 10:48

jillybean, on Oct 6 2010, 10:03 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

(1♠) 2♠ (4♠) ?

accept the transfer quickly and perhaps they'll go to 5♠ :)
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Posted 2010-October-06, 19:02

pooltuna, on Oct 6 2010, 09:48 AM, said:

jillybean, on Oct 6 2010, 10:03 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

(1♠) 2♠ (4♠) ? 

accept the transfer quickly and perhaps they'll go to 5♠ ;)

Transfer where Toona?
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Posted 2010-October-06, 19:32

hanp, on Oct 6 2010, 10:21 AM, said:

Pass.

edit: that took me about 2 seconds.

You type slow if that took you 2 seconds.
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Posted 2010-October-06, 19:55

I don't see any problems passing in tempo here...
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Posted 2010-October-06, 20:46

I am fine with 5H, but I've been wrong before.
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Posted 2010-October-07, 00:11

5♥ not sure if in tempo or not. I guess not. Because it can make, because we have 0-1 spade tricks and maybe 1 diamond ruff to beat 4♠ and this might just be a big double fit.
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Posted 2010-October-07, 02:55

Pass, and this is easy.
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Posted 2010-October-07, 18:38

Partner held void,AKQxxx,JT9xxx,Q

5♥ is the winner
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Posted 2010-October-07, 18:52

jillybean, on Oct 7 2010, 07:38 PM, said:

Partner held void,AKQxxx,JT9xxx,Q

5♥ is the winner

Partner is not going to pass out 4♠ imo. You would really need little for it to be right for him to bid, like Qxxx xx Axxx Jxx.
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Posted 2010-October-07, 18:56

jillybean, on Oct 8 2010, 07:38 AM, said:

Partner held void,AKQxxx,JT9xxx,Q

5♥ is the winner

Yes Jilly, it is, however not an immediate 5H bid by responder. As Josh points out, this hand would NOT pass out 4S.
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Posted 2010-October-07, 19:57

Well, it did happen at one table, 4♠ was indeed passed out.
The othe table played in 5♥, I don't know how they got there.
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Posted 2010-October-07, 20:08

jillybean, on Oct 8 2010, 08:57 AM, said:

Well, it did happen at one table, 4♠ was indeed passed out.
The othe table played in 5♥, I don't know how they got there.

In my opinion, this is such an obvious bid over 4S that you could even justify it had partner hesitated.
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Posted 2010-October-08, 06:24

jillybean, on Oct 6 2010, 10:03 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

(1♠) 2♠ (4♠) ? 
IMO 5♥ = 10, _P = 9, _X = 4.
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jillybean, on Oct 7 2010, 07:38 PM, said:

Partner held void,AKQxxx,JT9xxx,Q 5♥ is the winner
partner should rebid 4N with the hand actually held.
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Posted 2010-October-08, 07:26

jillybean, on Oct 6 2010, 08:02 PM, said:

pooltuna, on Oct 6 2010, 09:48 AM, said:

jillybean, on Oct 6 2010, 10:03 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

(1♠) 2♠ (4♠) ? 

accept the transfer quickly and perhaps they'll go to 5♠ :(

Transfer where Toona?

somehow my answer to this disappeared....anyway I was calling the opps 4♠ call a transfer to 5♥
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Posted 2010-October-15, 14:42

jillybean, on Oct 7 2010, 07:38 PM, said:

Partner held void,AKQxxx,JT9xxx,Q

5♥ is the winner

Just because 5♥ is a fine result doesn't mean YOU will have to bid it immediately. Doesn't partner get to take another bid? How would you feel if you bid 5♥ and partner raises to 6, only to find being -1?
 
 
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Posted 2010-October-15, 14:54

if you have 6-6 you just don't pass. ever
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Posted 2010-October-17, 03:26

Pass... too rich for me at the 5 level

ps Although I accept, if pd has hearts and clubs we may be looking at a double swing! Well done to East for bidding 4S.

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