[pbleighton]

If you open in a suit with a decent 9 to a good-but-not-great 14, what is your invitational range as responder? Assume that 3NT is the target game contract, and that your hand quality as responder is average (for your raw point count). 12-14? Ignore 11 (responder) vs 14(opener)?

Related question - do you respond with 6 hcp in you non-fit 1 level responses, or do you raise the level to 8 or so, so that the opener can jump with a maximum hand?

Peter

[Free]

Invitational hands depend of the opening strength. You say you open with decent 9 (so not all 9), probably all 10-13's, and most 14's. So I'd consider the hand as 10-14, since decend 9-pointers are unbalanced imo, and the 3NT contract can't be the right one .
What is invitational in that case? you want to be in game when partner has 12-14, so (11)12-13 HCP I'd say. This can be less or more, depending on how you evaluate your hand. Not all 13HCP need invitation for 3NT

Yes, 6+, 5+, whatever. As long as your partner keeps his feet on the ground you're safe imo. Use the immediate raise structure as preemptive weapon, makes it harder for opps to bid, and they can hardly double... Ofcourse you'll need some other bid to show good support

[luke warm]

if you play a mini nt, all 1 bids (except for 1c in some systems) show an unbalanced hand... so evaluate on that basis, as responder

so if free and richard play moscito with 10-13 nt, there should hardly ever be a case when they don't pretty much know the limits of the hand

[Free]

In moscito, 10-13 is unplayable, but we play 11-14 and it isn't that bad

[the hog]

12-14 seems about right for invit hands, Peter.
Re responses, I would probably up these to about 7 points or so, but it really depends on the hand.

[hrothgar]

Hi Peter

Its very difficult to provide a concise answer, particularly since you're using HCP as an evaluation metric. From my perspective, the best course of action is to go and start looking at primary or secondary data. Look at a bunch of hand records and see how folks playing system XYZ bid to different contracts. Alternatively, get a dealer programer, deal a series of 9-14 HCP and try to draw some conclusions.

[hrothgar]

pbleighton, on Aug 8 2004, 06:36 PM, said:

Related question - do you respond with 6 hcp in you non-fit 1 level responses, or do you raise the level to 8 or so, so that the opener can jump with a maximum hand?

Playing MOSCITO, any response typically shows constructive values. If the opponent's decide to interfere in our non-fit auctions, we want to be well positioned to double them for penalties.

According, responder will pass with most 6 counts the lack a fit. There are a few counter examples.

Over a 1♦ opening, I'd responder 1NT holding

♠KT9
♥xx
♦KT76
♣T962

I'd respond 2♦ with

♠ T52
♥ 2
♦AQT983
♣872

since, I'd be willing to rebid my Diamonds if necessary.

However, in most cases, I'll pass a 6 count.