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That give me an idea. Maybe bid boxes should have a lid that's easily closed, with the word STOP on it. Instead of showing the STOP card, you simply close LHO's lid. He then should wait 10 seconds before opening it and taking his card out.
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Posted 2010-September-18, 08:28
barmar, on Sep 18 2010, 03:22 PM, said:
That give me an idea. Maybe bid boxes should have a lid that's easily closed, with the word STOP on it. Instead of showing the STOP card, you simply close LHO's lid. He then should wait 10 seconds before opening it and taking his card out.
The idea is that the Stop card wielder controls the tempo so that his LHO can use the time to think. So it is the the Stopper who would open the box.
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Posted 2010-September-18, 08:36
Vampyr, on Sep 18 2010, 10:28 AM, said:
barmar, on Sep 18 2010, 03:22 PM, said:
That give me an idea. Maybe bid boxes should have a lid that's easily closed, with the word STOP on it. Instead of showing the STOP card, you simply close LHO's lid. He then should wait 10 seconds before opening it and taking his card out.
The idea is that the Stop card wielder controls the tempo so that his LHO can use the time to think. So it is the the Stopper who would open the box.
That's not true in the ACBL guidelines for STOP card use, but true elsewhere. My hope was that the need to open the box would be enough to get them to pay attention to the rule and pause by themselves.
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Posted 2010-September-18, 08:43
Vampyr, on Sep 18 2010, 10:28 AM, said:
The idea is that the Stop card wielder controls the tempo
In the EBU, yes. In the ACBL, no.
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But should the director impose a disciplinary penalty on South?
No. Possibly a procedural penalty.
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Or is that kind of ruling likely to cause too much resentment among law-breakers?
Sure, let's avoid hurting the feelings of the poor law-breaker. After all, if we penalize him for violating the law, he might just quit playing the game.
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Posted 2010-September-18, 16:43
Some jurisdictions seem to have a bad stop-card regulation or a lax approach to enforcing it. In the UK, however, we have a fairly sensible rule, most players see the rationale for it, and most try to comply with it. Nevertheless, even here, there is sometimes a dispute as to whether the stop-bidder took away the stop-card too quickly or his LHO jumped the gun or tanked longer than his allotted ten seconds.
Until we can afford electronic timer/bidding boxes, each table could be issued with a 10 second "hour-glass" type timer. The stop bidder would make his bid and turn over the timer. The next player would bid as soon as the sand ran out but not before.
Until we can afford electronic timer/bidding boxes, each table could be issued with a 10 second "hour-glass" type timer. The stop bidder would make his bid and turn over the timer. The next player would bid as soon as the sand ran out but not before.