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is there a right and wrong?

Poll: Which card do you play (29 member(s) have cast votes)

Which card do you play

  1. King, king (23 votes [79.31%])

    Percentage of vote: 79.31%

  2. King, jack (2 votes [6.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.90%

  3. Jack King (1 votes [3.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.45%

  4. jack jack (3 votes [10.34%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.34%

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Posted 2010-August-20, 02:01

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The bidding:

RHO you LHO Partner
pass 3 ♥ X 4♦
pass 4 ♥ pass pass
4 ♠ pass pass 5 Heart

You play in a knock out, opps and partner are world class. The opps even earned money at the cavendish, partner had a medal from a World Chamionship.
You are me, so you are not at thsi standard.
You guess that you have lost your half time lead, but it is close.

Scenario A: LHO leads the ace of clubs and return a low spade, you play the...?

Scenario B: RHO inquired you about the 4 ♦ bid (no agreement) and LHO needs about 3 Minutes before he leads a spade at trick two.

If you cares: On the ace of clubs RHO gives a small one. Usually they give count.
I did not ask whether they would give Lavintahl with a singelton at the table. Even if, I would not care about their signal here.

Hint: The spade honours are divided. :D
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Posted 2010-August-20, 04:37

I play the king both times. RHO wasn't enthusiastic about bidding 4♠, was apparently happy to see us in 4♦, but didn't want to double it. All of those suggest that ♠A is on the left.

In your second scenario, the question reinforces the inference about RHO's liking for 4♦, and LHO's pause suggests that he's worried about losing ♠A when RHO has a trump trick.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-August-20, 07:32

KK
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Posted 2010-August-20, 09:05

I don't think RHO really cares about diamonds. What sort of hand does he have? 5♠ seems likely. Also 5♦? Would he really ask about the ♦ bid with Qxxx? Would LHO make a takeout double with a stiff ♦?

I guess lefty has like AKQxxx of ♣ and Qxxx of ♠, though it may just be the case that RHO didn't want to bid 4♠ and get doubled if 4♦ was to play or something since it isn't game yet.

I guess this mostly suggests popping K, but it seems pretty random.
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Posted 2010-August-20, 11:38

I vote Jack-King to be sure I guess 50% of the time :lol:

I don't have any strong inferences, I think the defence is automatic with ♠Q and only with heart shortness it might be wrong to do it with ♠A.
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Posted 2010-August-20, 13:46

KK

IMO he is thinking (case 2) about the impossibility of beating it.

Case 1 he is a bit quicker thinking.
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Posted 2010-August-21, 06:51

jjbrr, on Aug 20 2010, 11:05 AM, said:

I guess lefty has like AKQxxx of ♣ and Qxxx of ♠, though it may just be the case that RHO didn't want to bid 4♠ and get doubled if 4♦ was to play or something since it isn't game yet.

I guess this mostly suggests popping K, but it seems pretty random.

I don't understand. If you guess lefty has like AKQxxx of ♣ and Qxxx of ♠, why aren't you playing the J?
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Posted 2010-August-21, 07:32

Free, on Aug 20 2010, 03:32 PM, said:

KK

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Posted 2010-August-21, 09:45

Bbradley62, on Aug 21 2010, 06:51 AM, said:

jjbrr, on Aug 20 2010, 11:05 AM, said:

I guess lefty has like AKQxxx of ♣ and Qxxx of ♠, though it may just be the case that RHO didn't want to bid 4♠ and get doubled if 4♦ was to play or something since it isn't game yet.

I guess this mostly suggests popping K, but it seems pretty random.

I don't understand. If you guess lefty has like AKQxxx of ♣ and Qxxx of ♠, why aren't you playing the J?

Because while AKQxxx Qxxx is a possible hand, just based on HCP it's more likely lho has the ♠A
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Posted 2010-August-23, 04:00

jjbrr, on Aug 21 2010, 12:05 AM, said:

I guess lefty has like AKQxxx of ♣ and Qxxx of ♠,

Impressive.
Correct layout.

I played the king and failed.
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