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Respond to takeout double

Poll: Your call? (29 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. 2H (1 votes [3.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.45%

  3. 2S (1 votes [3.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.45%

  4. 3C (8 votes [27.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.59%

  5. 3H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 3S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Double (19 votes [65.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 65.52%

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#1 User is offline   Bbradley62 

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Posted 2010-July-16, 18:43

Scoring: XIMP

P-(1)-Dbl-(2)
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Posted 2010-July-16, 21:17

I'd start with X
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Posted 2010-July-16, 22:17

yep, x seems to be the only call which tries to get us to the correct strain. Do I raise when pard chooses a major? Yes, I think so.
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Posted 2010-July-17, 12:29

I thought there was a notion that at low levels, a responsive X implied a 3-card major holdings while if you had 4 you bid them. On this hand I am bidding 2S, then 3H if 3C comes back around to me.

I can see where you can agree that X shows 4-4 majors, but I didn't expect that to be the majority interpretation.
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Posted 2010-July-17, 12:49

Siegmund, on Jul 17 2010, 11:29 AM, said:

I thought there was a notion that at low levels, a responsive X implied a 3-card major holdings while if you had 4 you bid them. On this hand I am bidding 2S, then 3H if 3C comes back around to me.

I can see where you can agree that X shows 4-4 majors, but I didn't expect that to be the majority interpretation.

Except partner could be 4-3 in the majors for their t/o X and by making a responsive X we find our 4-4 fit.

I have no idea what 3 would be here. Just more shape, like 5-5 and not enough to want to go to game? I can't think of any other hand I'd bid 3 on.
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Posted 2010-July-17, 13:51

Siegmund, on Jul 17 2010, 12:29 PM, said:

I thought there was a notion that at low levels, a responsive X implied a 3-card major holdings while if you had 4 you bid them. On this hand I am bidding 2S, then 3H if 3C comes back around to me.

I can see where you can agree that X shows 4-4 majors, but I didn't expect that to be the majority interpretation.

that notion is applicable after 1M (X) 2M (X) where the responsive doubler would have bid the focus major if he/she had 4 of them.

When the double is of a minor which was raised, things change.
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Posted 2010-July-17, 16:02

I have 3 defined here as invitational with 44 majors, so that's perfect.

Without it I'd try a responsive dbl.
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Posted 2010-July-18, 02:50

Normal responsive double.

It doesn't make sense for a double to deny hearts and spades and the opponent's suit. If it did deny all of those things why don't we just bid the remaining suit.
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