[inquiry]

Please Register your partnership for the bidding contest by replying to this post with the name of your partner. Such a post will be deemed your entry into the contest.

Below is a rough draft of the proposed condition of contest. Comments, complaints, suggestons welcomed. A final draft will come out of these comments.

DRAFT Condition of Contest:

1. Open to any partnership where at least one member of the partnership has at least four (4) post in these forums before today (July 9. 2010).

2. Contestants agree that their auctions maybe reproduced for displayed and comments in the BBO forum.

3. Competitive bidding will occur in some auctions. Every effort will be taken to make the competitive auctions the same at both tables, but in some cases the contestants’ auction might be such that the competitive bid will not occur (for instance, north might "overcall 2H" as part of the condition of the hand. If the bidding is already at 2S before it is north's turn to bid, north will then pass.)

4. The scoring will be by estimated international matchpoints, on a scale from 0 to 12, with 10 usually being the highest score obtained. A few remarkable contracts might be awarded an 11 or 12.

5. Scores can be appealed here in this forum, since this is a contest for forum members. If a general consensus cannot be obtained in the forum, the moderate can assign the final score based upon his best judgment of the strength of the public arguments posted in the forum.

6. The format will be double elimination. The first round may include contest with three participants. In this case, there maybe one or two winners, and correspondingly one or two losers. The decision of between two winners or two losers in a three-way match will depend upon if it balances the winner bracket or the loser bracket for the subsequent round. If a three-way match becomes necessary in the loser bracket, only one the lowest scoring team will be eliminated.

7. Seeding will be random (and not based upon sequence of registration).

8. All contests will take place in BBO teaching tables, with kibitzing allowed. It is necessary to post in this forum when a bidding contest will start. Ideally a day or two before, but if contestants decide to bid spontaneous with no advanced planning (and a moderator is present to give them the hands), then a post should be made in this forum announcing that the start of the bidding contest and the name of the table host.

9. Each round will consist of 16 boards. If a scoring tie exist after 16 boards, a sudden death condition applies with additional boards until one pair outscores the other.

[JLOGIC]

jlall/hanp

[inquiry]

Sudden death seems problematic now that I think of it because of the possibility of contested scores. Any suggestions?

Option 1... sudden death to decide teh winner with understanding that if a contested board occurs the sudden death hand(s) remain in the mix?

Option 2... if a tie exist at the end of 16 boards, no appeals are possible and the sudden death hand(s) decide the match

Option3... if sudden death to decide the winner, and there is an appeal of scoring, if the appeal(s) lead to correct results on earlier boards, then the sudden death hands are not used in determing the winner.

Other?

[kfay]

kfay/jchiu

[karlson]

What date would this start/end?

[TimG]

Are aids to memory to be allowed?

[Elianna]

elianna/awm

[Lobowolf]

lobowolf/bkjswan

[inquiry]

TimG, on Jul 9 2010, 06:44 PM, said:

Are aids to memory to be allowed?

I would think such things might should be discouraged (disallowed), but since this should be a forum contest, I think majority should rule on such a decision. I think for the most part they will not be a huge help.

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What date would this start/end?

I think there is no rush to finish this thing. Maybe a month to complete a round? Or at least a week?

If there are 8 teams entered, I can imagine a week or two for the first four matches. Then the next time period we might save for the two elimination matches and two matches to with undefeated pairs, etc. So it looks like five time periods (and maybe a sixth if the whoever comes up through the elimination bracket then beats the undefeated team. If we allow two weeks to get each match in, then we have a minimum of two weeks to discuss the old hands before new ones show up.

I was sent an alternative suggestion which I will share now as it has reasonable merit.

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I think it would be more interesting if there were more participants on each deal. So, instead of having KO type matches, have a pool of X pairs that all bid the same hands and the top couple qualify for head-to-head competition.

I would think it would be less work for the organize because you would have to score fewer deals.

Of course, it would also increase the security risk, but I don't think you are too worried about that.

That certainly has a lot of merit as it only requires two batches of hands and is over very quickly.

The format can be whatever the majority of partipants feel comfortable with. I am thinking the appeal of scores might be a nightmare, but might also lead to interesting discussions which is why I am suggesting it rather than a panel of three people who just make a final decision or a "decison of moderator on scores is final" kind of approach. This is suppose to be fun or lets not do it.

[zasanya]

zasanya/ravia6

[Hanoi5]

So, 32 hands total. Maybe 16 more if there is another round (if there are more pairs).

I don't think memory help should be allowed.

On other matter, is the process going to be taken into account or just the results? What if a pair can't explain their reasonings satisfactorily?

How about setting dates for 'registrations'?

[gnasher]

gnasher/catch22

Regarding aids to memory, I don't mind if they're allowed or not, but I think there should be a clearcut rule.

Regarding contested scores that might affect the result, I don't think it's practicable to do anything at the end of the match. People may take time to realise that they want to contest a score.

I suggest that from when they receive their scores each pair should have 24 hours to say that they want to contest one of them. If they do, and that leads to a tie, just reconvene the players for a further match.

Regarding this:

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I think it would be more interesting if there were more participants on each deal. So, instead of having KO type matches, have a pool of X pairs that all bid the same hands and the top couple qualify for head-to-head competition.

I agree.

One other thing: will the players know their running scores (or their opponents' scores) as they go along? I strongly suggest that they shouldn't.

This post has been edited by gnasher: 2010-July-10, 05:02

[hrothgar]

inquiry, on Jul 10 2010, 04:54 AM, said:

TimG, on Jul 9 2010, 06:44 PM, said:

Are aids to memory to be allowed?

I would think such things might should be discouraged (disallowed), but since this should be a forum contest, I think majority should rule on such a decision. I think for the most part they will not be a huge help.

My guess (and this is only a guess) is that Tim might be willing to give MOSCITO a go if he was able to use a memory aid of some kind

(Regretfully, MOSCITO isn't something that you can use effectively without a lot of time / effort)

[gwnn]

j0i - gwnn

I haven't asked him yet so if he cant play I can delete/modify this entry I hope?

[jillybean]

gwnn, on Jul 10 2010, 06:12 AM, said:

I haven't asked him yet so if he cant play I can delete/modify this entry I hope?

ditto

kristen33 - jillybean

[Vampyr]

Vampyr, Lamford

[TimG]

tlgoodwin/timg

[hrothgar]

Hrothgar/Free

[jdonn]

jdonn/gib

[sallyally]

sallyally/joylson