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Second seat

Poll: Pass to you... (44 member(s) have cast votes)

Pass to you...

  1. Pass (3 votes [6.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.82%

  2. 1H (16 votes [36.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.36%

  3. 2H (25 votes [56.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 56.82%

  4. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#21 User is offline   P_Marlowe 

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Posted 2010-July-05, 07:53

Hi,

It is either Pass or 2H.

A mood thing, most likely I would go with Pass.

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Posted 2010-July-05, 08:34

It looks like this would have been a more interesting poll if I had asked y'all to rank the three possible calls from best to worst, as Pass seems to have an awful lot of secondary support. I'm used to an approach that says there's no such thing as a hand that's too good to open 2 but not good enough to open 1; with a borderline hand like this one, you have to pick one or the other. I guess that if you pass, you plan on taking charge if partner bids, since you'll never convince him that you hold this hand.
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Posted 2010-July-05, 08:41

This "there is no hand too strong to a weak 2 and too weak for a 1 level opening" theorem only applies when you have a good suit, say

KQT9xx

If you add high card points continuously to a hand that has this heart suit, I agree that it will be in the beginning a 2 opener then at one point it will turn into a 1 opener. However, if the heart suit is bad, full of holes (J7xxxx), then it will be ineligible for a weak two opener and it will only be eligible for a 1 level opener when the total HCP is above, say, 11 or so, all things being equal (J7xxxx AKx Jx Kx for some people).

more controversial section: Also it is not unreasonable to say that

Kxxxxx
x
xxx
xxx
is an acceptable weak 2 opening in some seats but

Kxxxxx
Q
QJx
QTx

is neither a 2 opening, nor a 1 opening.

The reason being that the second hand is too quacky. So by adding low quality HCP to a hand previously suitable for a weak two, it has become ineligible because a too high % of points are in the forms of queens and jacks. I am avoiding the expression ODR since I think too many people are using it too often in wrong contexts.
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Posted 2010-July-05, 17:31

I would open 2, but wouldn't object to 1.

As for pass: count me out. And that isn't because I ascribe to what I consider to be one of the silliest 'rules' in bridge: that there is no hand too strong to open 2 and too weak to open 1.

My style is maybe a little more conservative than many posters, hence my willingness to open 2 in 2nd seat. I would chose 1 if my suit were AQ10xxx
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Posted 2010-July-05, 17:42

I'm oldfashioned enough to open this 2 in 2nd seat as the stiff K is downgrade.

However, if PD chooses 1 I won't say a word against it.
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Posted 2010-July-06, 08:10

2 would be my first choice. If I were playing precision it's an obvious 1 opener.

Pass is not an option for me.
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