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Second seat

Poll: Pass to you... (44 member(s) have cast votes)

Pass to you...

  1. Pass (3 votes [6.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.82%

  2. 1H (16 votes [36.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.36%

  3. 2H (25 votes [56.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 56.82%

  4. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Bbradley62 

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Posted 2010-July-03, 21:14

Scoring: XIMP

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Posted 2010-July-03, 21:34

Partner needs a very good quality second suit of spades or clubs to make that more viable and low value singleton KD makes the preempt preferable.
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Posted 2010-July-03, 22:13

2♥. Not close, especially on 2nd seat.
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Posted 2010-July-03, 22:39

Doesn't strike me as close in 1st or 3rd seat either, to be honest. 2♥ for me too.
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Posted 2010-July-03, 22:40

1♥

I have an opening hand, so I open it. Also I don't see any reason for going out of my way to show a preempt in a suit of AQ9543.

However, if GIB did something else (2♥ or pass) I certainly wouldn't regard it as a bug worthy of posting in the GIB forum.
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Posted 2010-July-04, 04:42

Wouldn't open 2H, it seems too far off.

Pass or 1H depending on opening style.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-July-04, 04:42

I don't care much for this, as both 1 and 2♥ are pretty much ok in my book.
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Posted 2010-July-04, 09:30

2♥ probably. 1♥ is OK too, especially at IMPs.

Its a pass that leaves me scratching my head.
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Posted 2010-July-04, 09:40

I voted for pass. I think an 11-count is too much for a weak 2, and especially in second seat I want my hand to be close to what's expected.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-July-04, 10:02

1♥ looks completely obvious to me.
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Posted 2010-July-04, 11:26

hanp, on Jul 4 2010, 10:42 AM, said:

Wouldn't open 2H, it seems too far off.

Pass or 1H depending on opening style.

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Posted 2010-July-04, 11:27

I think 2♥ in second seat would be fine if vul, I'll open 1♥ if not vul.
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Posted 2010-July-04, 11:32

jdonn, on Jul 4 2010, 05:27 PM, said:

I think 2♥ in second seat would be fine if vul

Please, I've just eaten
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Posted 2010-July-04, 11:51

2♥. That's the bid I would make if my hand were Kxx AQxxxx x Jxx, and this hand is worse.
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Posted 2010-July-04, 12:26

MickyB, on Jul 4 2010, 12:32 PM, said:

jdonn, on Jul 4 2010, 05:27 PM, said:

I think 2♥ in second seat would be fine if vul

Please, I've just eaten

Hmm? Jxx K Jxx is worth 5 points these days or else Brits will start vomitting?
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Posted 2010-July-04, 13:08

jdonn, on Jul 4 2010, 06:26 PM, said:

MickyB, on Jul 4 2010, 12:32 PM, said:

jdonn, on Jul 4 2010, 05:27 PM, said:

I think 2♥ in second seat would be fine if vul

Please, I've just eaten

Hmm? Jxx K Jxx is worth 5 points these days or else Brits will start vomitting?

It's not about points - I'm quite happy to pass, but I think preempting 2nd seat vul on such a defensive hand is horrible.
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Posted 2010-July-04, 13:17

It's a very fair point that we have a lot of defense but I still think 2♥ is more effective than pass. Usually LHO will open in third seat and we will have to overcall next round anyway, so we are just missing a chance to get in his way.
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Posted 2010-July-04, 14:21

Never Pass. I can imagine a very likely third seat 2S-P-P- or a third seat 1S -P-2S- and what would I do then?
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Posted 2010-July-04, 17:18

2h risks missing spade suit (with a cruddy suit to boot)
1h risks getting us overboard with what is probably a better defensive than offensive hand

we still have a partner and if they cannot open the bidding it is hugely unlikely we missed anything much.

I choose the cowardly pass at imps
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Posted 2010-July-04, 17:23

I agree with 655321, especially the last part.
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