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#21 User is offline   Cascade 

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Posted 2010-June-29, 23:44

Yes 12 points in my long suits.
No Not close especially opposite a passed partner
Yes Partner's pass worries me a little but the vulnerability encourages me
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Posted 2010-June-29, 23:58

1) Automatic.

2) No.

3) Reluctant.
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Posted 2010-June-30, 03:05

Yes, no, yes but with a slight wince. On 2, I'd double at the one-level.

Justin is right that I'd regard the 4342 shape as less attractive than the 3244, because I like to have 3-card support for all the unbid suits, and I think that's more important than having specifically four spades.

I'm slightly surprised that this attitude seems to be shared by some players from continental Europe - I thought it was purely a British thing. Anyway, I think exposure to overseas influence has largely cured the better English players of this affliction. For example, I'm sure that Frances, MickyB and Burn would all double on the third one.
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Posted 2010-June-30, 03:23

gnasher, on Jun 30 2010, 09:05 AM, said:

For example, I'm sure that Frances, MickyB and Burn would all double on the third one.

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Posted 2010-June-30, 05:11

1: Yes, opening strength and support to all unbid
2: No, not strong enough. I would double if I felt like it.
3: No, I like 3 card support. I should probably reconsider this.

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Posted 2010-June-30, 10:58

no no yes
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Posted 2010-July-01, 02:05

Fluffy, on Jun 30 2010, 05:53 AM, said:

1)yes
2) lol
3) normally not, but sometimes I just do it

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Posted 2010-July-01, 05:29

Yes, somewhat close.
No, not close. Maybe LOL is a slight overstatement, though.
Yes, not close.
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Posted 2010-July-01, 09:11

JLOL, on Jun 30 2010, 12:18 AM, said:

Phil, on Jun 29 2010, 04:00 PM, said:

1. No
2. eh, close - more tempted on this than 1 TBH.
3. Definitely

I honestly don't understand how 12 NV at MP at the 1 level can be less tempting that 11 red at MP with the wasted HJ over 2H vul at matchpoints. It is amazing to me.

Well, I'll try I guess.

On the 1st, we have an aceless pile of garbage that frankly I would not open. I have with Qxx in the suit we hope to compete in, and RHO has opened at the one level. Neither partner nor LHO have passed initially, so I'm a bit trepidatious wading out to the two level putting down this dummy in 2 minor hammered or 2.

On the 2nd, I have great spades and the right shape. LHO has passed, so I have reason to believe that partner has a little over there. The downside of doubling seems very small.
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Posted 2010-July-01, 15:28

Yes, no (but I would at the 1-level), no*. Sorry gnasher.

*Maybe I would NV at matchpoints/BAM but I would still feel sinful doing so with 3 low hearts.
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Posted 2010-July-01, 16:43

gnasher, on Jun 30 2010, 09:05 AM, said:

For example, I'm sure that Frances, MickyB and Burn would all double on the third one.

Yup - it is somewhat close for me only because partner is a passed hand. And yes, I have been "cured", I used to be very much of the "shape suitable" school of doubles. Now I am firmly yes/no/yes for the three hands.
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Posted 2010-July-01, 17:18

helene_t, on Jul 1 2010, 07:29 AM, said:

Yes, somewhat close.
No, not close. Maybe LOL is a slight overstatement, though.
Yes, not close.

Agreed.
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