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a few sick takeout doubles would you?

#1 User is offline   karlson 

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Posted 2010-June-29, 12:26

all at matchpoints or bam

1.
Qxx xx KQxx KQxx
w/w 1-?

2.
AK98 Jx Txx K98x
r/r p-p-2-?

3.
K9xx Txx AQJx Ax
w/r p-1-?
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Posted 2010-June-29, 12:35

Not sure
No
Yes (automatic)
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Posted 2010-June-29, 12:45

1) Give me a 4th and I suspect this will be automatic for many including me but as it is a reluctant pass lacking any aces or useful 10's.

2) I'd need a bit more than this so PASS.

3) Why would doubling be sick here? I double for sure.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 13:19

No, but change any card to a spade and yes.
Yes, and I didn't think it was close o_o
Yes
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Posted 2010-June-29, 13:55

1) Automatic TOX
2) pass
3) toss up between 1 and a TOX
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Posted 2010-June-29, 13:59

gwnn, on Jun 29 2010, 01:35 PM, said:

Not sure
No
Yes (automatic)

Agree with gwnn, the third one is really not sick at all.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 14:17

1. Definitely double w/w at mps.
2. Pass for sure.
3. Normal double in any conditions.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 14:30

Yes
No
No

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2010-June-29, 14:33

1. Mildly yes I am a little ashamed to say.
2. Clearly no
3. Clearly yes
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Posted 2010-June-29, 14:46

#1 yes
#2 no, but 2S is worth a consideration, not sure I find the bid on the table
#3 no

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Posted 2010-June-29, 14:46

1) Really obvious yes.
2) Subminimum. I've been known to try it, but no.
3) I force myself to pass if not playing equal-level correction, but I don't like it. Really would like to get involved.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 14:53

1)yes
2) lol
3) normally not, but sometimes I just do it
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Posted 2010-June-29, 15:00

1. No
2. eh, close - more tempted on this than 1 TBH.
3. Definitely
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Posted 2010-June-29, 15:16

1. No. This is a bad hand and doubling will cause partner to get us too high far too often.

2. Not even close.

3. Yes
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Posted 2010-June-29, 15:48

1. Yes. Acting now is much safer than waiting and trying to act later. I think it's close, but is a double to me.
2. No. Although the above holds true, it just doesn't meet the threshold for safety.
3. Yes.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 18:18

(1) (w/w at MP) and (3) are clearly Yes.

(2) is more interesting. I think I do like double, perhaps the hand is not really worth it, and if partner jumps to game we are likely to regret it, but otherwise double should work out OK. LHO is a passed hand too which means we are less likely to be doubled. If partner has 3 hearts 2 is likely to be the final contract if we pass.

Don't understand the Bizzarro World suggestions of spade overcalls on hands (2) and (3).
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 19:52

1) Yes, w/w MPs ....
2) Nope.
3) Nope.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 20:54

all at matchpoints or bam

1.
♠Qxx ♥xx ♦KQxx ♣KQxx
w/w 1♥-?

2.
♠AK98 ♥Jx ♦Txx ♣K98x
r/r p-p-2♥-?

3.
♠K9xx ♥Txx ♦AQJx ♣Ax
w/r p-1♥-?

1. NO if p cannot find a call over 1h we didnt miss anything doubling with this
crud can lead to nothing but disaster.

2. YES great chance hcp spread out evenly cant let them steal 2h ---while we might
get too high it wont be often since p is a passed hand.

3. NO not even good distribution for x what do we do if p bids 2c--x here not only isnt good for all suits but gives opps way too much information if/when they win the contract and the odds are in their favor since p is already a passed hand.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 21:50

1. No. Leave this hand for reopening --likely 2N= mm.
2. No. Partner passed, but 2S appeals: lead-direct and may find big fit.
3. Yes. Game is on the menu, suggest that.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 23:18

Phil, on Jun 29 2010, 04:00 PM, said:

1. No
2. eh, close - more tempted on this than 1 TBH.
3. Definitely

I honestly don't understand how 12 NV at MP at the 1 level can be less tempting that 11 red at MP with the wasted HJ over 2H vul at matchpoints. It is amazing to me.

1 is an obvious X, and 2 is an obvious pass. 3 to me is an obvious X, but I know the English people (gnasher, frances), are not used to these off shape doubles. The real loss is when partner has 5 clubs and a medium hand and he can't compete when it's right since you might have a doubleton club. Still, this double is normal to me, it finds 3N or 4oM when it's right. which is important to me. If you miss a 3m partscore, that's an acceptable loss.
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