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Opener's Rebid-- Part 1 Part 2 will show Responder's hand

#21 User is offline   ONEferBRID 

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Posted 2010-May-30, 05:33

The "Josh rebid", I believe, would be a 3C-jump ( GF ) and would work well here.
2NT.... is a very close 2nd.... eventho it is non-forcing( unless you play it as forcing ).
3D-jump .....has to be the worst... as it is "more non-forcing".... and when you see Responder's hand ( below ), he now has a forcing problem of his own.

Part 2

Here is Responder's hand.
Go for it with your favorite auction ( you can even start with a 2NT open if you so desire ).
6H+1 scores worst.
6NT+1 ...better.
7NT scores a bunch.

Responder
A J
K Q 9 x x x x
Q x
Q x
Don Stenmark ( TWOferBRIDGE )
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Posted 2010-May-30, 05:46

actually I agree that a 2NT opening is most appropriate with this hand but I rarely remember to properly think ahead in the bidding :) and I would in practice end up with this slight underbid of "18-19"
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Posted 2010-May-30, 06:56

Either open 2NT or rebid 2NT.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-May-30, 07:08

I don't see any problems with this hand. Responder sets hearts whatever his method opposite strong 2NT is (opener or rebid or w/e) then asks for aces then asks for kings and bid 7NT.
It has nothing to do with initial choice of openers/rebids imo.
I am pretty sure 2 lols at my club would bid this grand without any problems (but again, lols at my club would be in GF auction way below 2NT).
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Posted 2010-May-30, 07:31

you'll have to forgive me, I'm an idiot
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Posted 2010-May-30, 07:35

dealmegold, on May 30 2010, 01:31 PM, said:

On discovering p with three aces and two kings, responder apparently has one outstanding loser, and since p apparently has 18-19 balanced, it's not necessarily clear where that loser is going to go! Of course all we need is a jack in one of the minors.

If p had opened 2NT it would be a hell of a lot easier.

Unless partner has AK tight in a minor, you have 0 losers.
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Posted 2010-May-30, 07:37

gwnn, on May 30 2010, 08:35 AM, said:

dealmegold, on May 30 2010, 01:31 PM, said:

On discovering p with three aces and two kings, responder apparently has one outstanding loser, and since p apparently has 18-19 balanced, it's not necessarily clear where that loser is going to go! Of course all we need is a jack in one of the minors.

If p had opened 2NT it would be a hell of a lot easier.

Unless partner has AK tight in a minor, you have 0 losers.

yup, see edit
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Posted 2010-May-30, 07:53

I can't forgive you for what is my most natural state of being.
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Posted 2010-May-31, 09:16

1D-1H-2N-4C-4N-5C-5S-7N. Don't even have to set hearts as trumps before asking aces. More interesting question is how to NOT get there.
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Posted 2010-May-31, 16:30

cherdanno, on May 30 2010, 12:56 AM, said:

Why does everyone in this thread want to insult Josh?

Typical. Since when would I rebid 2 on a hand this good?

Opening or rebidding 2NT are fine (well, mostly just opening). 3 is way better than 3 but that's moot since we all know 3 is awful.

This would not be a hard hand to bid after a 2NT opening. Or after anything opener does really.
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Posted 2010-May-31, 16:54

I don't actually hate a 1D then 3C sequence but 1D 2N seems normal and I'd probably have opened 2N.
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Posted 2010-May-31, 17:08

2n. I admit I wouldn't have thought to open 2N, but it does seem right.
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