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#1 User is offline   ONEferBRID 

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Posted 2010-May-29, 13:18

K x
A x
A 9 x x x x
A K T

1D - 1H
??

[ Advance predicition: I believe that a "Josh rebid" might be best ] .
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Posted 2010-May-29, 13:40

3♣
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Posted 2010-May-29, 13:55

ONEferBRID, on May 29 2010, 02:18 PM, said:

K x
A x
A 9 x x x x
A K T

1D - 1H
??

[ Advance predicition: I believe that a "Josh rebid" might be best ] .

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Posted 2010-May-29, 14:14

I don't think it's a problem hand really.
Make it xx Ax AKQxxx KQx and we are talking but probably still 2NT due to lack of something else.
"Standard" is full of holes and this is one of them.
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Posted 2010-May-29, 14:21

2NT wtp?
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Posted 2010-May-29, 14:31

The way I see it, there are only two legitimate options.

I could bid 2NT.

If I think 2NT is not enough, surely a major rebid was not a surprise. I probably should have opened 2NT instead of 1♦.

2NT just seems right to me. 18 HCP, with a six-card minor. 8 controls (26.67-18=8.67=+2). I would have liked A109xxx in diamonds, but then that's too easy.
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Posted 2010-May-29, 14:45

I opened 2NT.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-May-29, 16:13

gwnn, on May 29 2010, 03:21 PM, said:

2NT wtp?

ditto.
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Posted 2010-May-29, 16:50

gnasher, on May 29 2010, 02:45 PM, said:

I opened 2NT.

That doesn't surprise me. This hand screams for suit play, but since the texture of the diamond suit is so good, it is certainly worth a 2 point upgrade for notrump.
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Posted 2010-May-29, 17:50

oh gawd not this again...

2NT or 3♦. Please not 3♣ thankyouverymuch
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Posted 2010-May-29, 18:50

whereagles, on May 30 2010, 06:50 AM, said:

oh gawd not this again...

2NT or 3♦. Please not 3♣ thankyouverymuch

rofl. 2NT of course.
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Posted 2010-May-29, 23:25

fwiw I do think jump rebids in a minor are a problem in 2/1......they are for me.


One partial solution is to open or rebid nt when you do not have a stiff or void.....

For me this was an easy solution if not perfect.....but I grant you can redo the hand I will have a problem......
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Posted 2010-May-29, 23:31

2NT not close. Presumably part 2 will be less obvious?
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Posted 2010-May-29, 23:32

2N is normal.

I assume the 'Josh-style rebid' is 2♣. Unfortunately not many problems are solved with that choice.
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Posted 2010-May-29, 23:56

Why does everyone in this thread want to insult Josh?
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Posted 2010-May-30, 00:08

How can anyone think anyone would bid 2C with this hand?
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Posted 2010-May-30, 00:56

mike777, on May 30 2010, 12:25 AM, said:

fwiw I do think jump rebids in a minor are a problem in 2/1......they are for me.

I don't see how 2/1 has anything to do with the auction 1D-1H-3D, or 1D-1H-2NT.
But maybe it is just that I don't see.
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Posted 2010-May-30, 01:20

peachy, on May 30 2010, 01:56 AM, said:

mike777, on May 30 2010, 12:25 AM, said:

fwiw I do think jump rebids in a minor are a problem in 2/1......they are for me.

I don't see how 2/1 has anything to do with the auction 1D-1H-3D, or 1D-1H-2NT.
But maybe it is just that I don't see.

if you dont see it you dont......I say it all


1minor...rebid jump rebid minor....is a mess in 2/1....very tough.......

of course there are partial solutions..but still......it is a mess.....
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on this deal...easy 2nt...but you can make it harder......

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my comment means....1minor...rebid ....3 minor in 2/1...is too often a mess....:)

It is for me.....I try alot of rules..to force nt hands..but still......I agree it is tough
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Posted 2010-May-30, 02:52

Okay, I give up.
You agree with yourself "it is tough in 2/1".
I agree with myself that 2/1 system has nothing to do with the posted problem. It is all clear now :)
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Posted 2010-May-30, 04:14

peachy, on May 30 2010, 03:52 AM, said:

Okay, I give up.
You agree with yourself "it is tough in 2/1".
I agree with myself that 2/1 system has nothing to do with the posted problem.  It is all clear now :)

Fair enough

If 2/1 has nothing to do with this issue.


FWIW I thought 2/1 did...but you do not...
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