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You have agreed that 3♣ jump is intermediate (2♣ followed by 3♣ is GF).
1♦-(1♥)-3♣!-(Pass)
4♣??
1♦-(Pass)-3♣!-(Pass)
4♣??
What is 4♣ here? preempt, invite or GF?
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After intermediate jump preempt, invite or slam interest?
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Posted 2010-May-09, 06:13
With the overcall, it's somewhere between preemptive and invite. It also depends on vulnerability as well. With a "reinvite", to bid 4♣ usually means we have a shortage (most likely hearts in this case) and most likely we would've just bid 5♣ or 4♥. With slam interest you can bid 3♥.
On the 2nd one, it's slam invite.
On the 2nd one, it's slam invite.
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Posted 2010-May-09, 08:33
kgr, on May 9 2010, 04:53 AM, said:
You have agreed that 3♣ jump is intermediate (2♣ followed by 3♣ is GF).
1♦-(1♥)-3♣!-(Pass)
4♣??
1♦-(Pass)-3♣!-(Pass)
4♣??
What is 4♣ here? preempt, invite or GF?
1♦-(1♥)-3♣!-(Pass)
4♣??
1♦-(Pass)-3♣!-(Pass)
4♣??
What is 4♣ here? preempt, invite or GF?
I think the question is best answered by what partner did not call....3♥, presumably asking you if you had a stopper! Now if he was only interested in game he should have just bid 3NT himself or 3♥ if he needed a stopper. Consequently IMO 4♣ is forcing and looking for slam.
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Posted 2010-May-10, 02:09
1st one is rather preemptive (because no 3♥ bid)
2nd one is slam try (since there's no need to bid preemptive)
2nd one is slam try (since there's no need to bid preemptive)
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Posted 2010-May-10, 03:51
kgr, on May 9 2010, 11:53 AM, said:
You have agreed that 3♣ jump is intermediate (2♣ followed by 3♣ is GF).
1♦-(1♥)-3♣!-(Pass)
4♣??
What is 4♣ here? preempt, invite or GF?
1♦-(1♥)-3♣!-(Pass)
4♣??
What is 4♣ here? preempt, invite or GF?
Scoring: MP
This was my hand and I wondered about the Spades.
I did bid 4♣, but my partner did take it as slam interest.
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Posted 2010-May-10, 07:40
An IJO has about 7 losers. An opening bid has about 7 losers. The two together should make ten tricks. So I would think 4♣ denies extras and shows an unbalanced hand (because it goes past 3NT).
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Posted 2010-May-10, 17:21
Both forcing. If you start with 3♥ on the first one and pull 3NT to clubs, then you have shown a heart control.
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