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Individual Event SAYC, no time for discussion before play

#1 User is offline   Bbradley62 

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Posted 2010-April-07, 22:12

Scoring: MP

How should this auction go?
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Posted 2010-April-08, 00:21

1-2
3-3
4-4?
5nt???-6?

I could see playing this in 4, 5, 6, 6, or 6nt.
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Posted 2010-April-08, 00:48

While you do use a strong jump-shift in SAYC, I would be worried for 2 reasons:
1. Many people who "claim" SAYC play a jump-shift as WEAK
2. You really shouldn't use a sjs with a 2 suited hand.

Here's my take on it [keeping in mind the (below) average person on BBO]
1 - 1
2 - 3
3 - 4

Now me, I would have directly bid 6 over 1 on this hand and hoped to get lucky, because it's too hard to describe to your (below) average BBO player.
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Posted 2010-April-08, 02:51

Bbradley62, on Apr 7 2010, 11:12 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

How should this auction go?

Here's my far-fetched attempt:

1H - 1S
3D - 5S ( asking for 6S w/at least 2nd Rnd Ctrl in Cl --the unbid suit )
6S
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Posted 2010-April-08, 06:25

Hi,

1H - 1S (1)
2D - 3C (2)
3D (3) - 3S (4)
3NT (5) - 6S (6)
all pass

(1) avoid jumping around, noone knowes, how this will be interpreted
(2) FSF, since this occurs on the 3 level, no need to worry about
inv., inv.+ or gf, 3C is gf
(3) Now the meaning of the bid becomes fuzzy, could be 5-4, 5-5
(4) Should show a strong slam interested 1-suiter
(5) One has a club stopper, and one has to bid something, and it seems
the best description of your hand, of course 3NT may only show a
half stopper
(6) since p promised a club (half) stopper, this will be either Kx or Ax, it wont
be Jxxx, espesially given that p did bypass 2D, Jxx is a possibility, but not
likely

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Marlowe
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Posted 2010-April-08, 09:34

Bbradley62, on Apr 7 2010, 11:12 PM, said:

Dealer: West
Vul: Both
Scoring: MP
 
KQT532
KT874
AK
AKQJ983
 
A
Q6532
 

How should this auction go?

maybe something like
1 2
3 3
4 4
4 5
6 7
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Posted 2010-April-08, 09:35

6 looks like plenty to me, and it seems somewhat trivial to get there.
OK
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Posted 2010-April-08, 10:31

chasetb, on Apr 8 2010, 07:48 AM, said:

2. You really shouldn't use a sjs with a 2 suited hand.


Which 2-suited hand would that be?
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Posted 2010-April-08, 19:52

Vampyr, on Apr 8 2010, 11:31 AM, said:

chasetb, on Apr 8 2010, 07:48 AM, said:

2. You really shouldn't use a sjs with a 2 suited hand.


Which 2-suited hand would that be?

Responder (South), of course. Opener can never use a weak jump shift, since a wjs shows 0-6 HCP and 6+ cards.
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Posted 2010-April-09, 02:16

Since this is individuals I know the bidding will go:

1-1
3-3
3NT-6
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Posted 2010-April-09, 14:22

Since it's an individual, it's not possible to predict the auction. There were 20 tables, which had 16 different auctions. The only two auctions that occurred at more that one table were:
1-4 (at 4 tables)
and
1-1
2-3
3-4, which occurred twice.

18 Norths opened 1, with the other two choosing 2 and 4.
Of the 18 responding to 1, 9 Souths bid 1, 3 bid 2, 4 bid 4, and 1 each for 2 and 4NT.
Of the 9 with 1-1, 5 bid 2, 3 bid 3 and 1 bid 3. The 3 responding to 1-2 chose 3, 3 and 4.
None of the 40 players ever bid 3NT.

The pair that scored the best had one of the worst auctions:
1-1
3-6
6NT-7

11 pairs played 4
5 pairs played 6
1 pair played each 4, 5, 5NT and 7

I still don't know what the best auction is. Too many forks in the road.

Does anyone bid 3NT after 1-1-2-3?
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Posted 2010-April-12, 10:59

chasetb, on Apr 9 2010, 02:52 AM, said:

Vampyr, on Apr 8 2010, 11:31 AM, said:

chasetb, on Apr 8 2010, 07:48 AM, said:

2. You really shouldn't use a sjs with a 2 suited hand.


Which 2-suited hand would that be?

Responder (South), of course. Opener can never use a weak jump shift, since a wjs shows 0-6 HCP and 6+ cards.

South has a 2-suited hand? You have got to be kidding.
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