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Space consuming sequence in MR simplified

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Posted 2010-April-01, 18:19

So today on BBO the following hand occured:
♠ 732 ♥AKQ75 ♦3 ♣AK97

partner opens 1♣

1♣ 2♦
3♦ ?????

2♦ was 12+, 5+♥; 3♦ was natural.
What to bid now ? How do you deal with this sequence ? We are very high already and don't have much space left. I dont like it that 2♦ response is that high. It seems to be very difficult to find out much about opener's shape now.
Any help ? <_<
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Posted 2010-April-01, 18:37

3 ♠ to right side the NT - he spurned the hearts and dislikes any other contract that you might offer so he can hardly be interested in a natural spades bid (even if you had spades you could rebid hearts to indicate the first was a real spade bid). Then you bid 6 NT or some other convention to get to the right level.
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Posted 2010-April-01, 19:41

Thats why people play relays. 3S would NOT rightside the contract as I assume it would be natural. Personally I believe your 2D bid is badly designed as it takes you too high immediately.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2010-April-01, 19:56

Yeah don't play 2D as showing hearts heh. Anyways just bid 4C now, you have 16 points so it's not like you care that you go past 3N.
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Posted 2010-April-01, 22:57

Jlall, on Apr 1 2010, 08:56 PM, said:

Yeah don't play 2D as showing hearts heh.

Or play that 2♦ shows just hearts, 6+ and no side suit. A lot easier to judge if you want opener to introduce his own suit over that.
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Posted 2010-April-02, 01:48

Ok, this is what was posted some time ago on bbo and we adopted it without any changes (yet!) and it's our 2nd day playing the system :)

I saw Greco Hampson play 1NT as hearts (and 1♠ as spades but 8+ ?). There is more space in this structure so it should be easier with natural followups.
I guess we can design some kind of step structure (like MR) but I would like to avoid it if there is some kind of easy and decent solution.
I know people are not to willing to give away their whole systems (understandably) but maybe someone could point out the place to start ? :)

Anyway, as to the hand:

Scoring: IMP


We had bid:

1♣ 2♦
3♦ 3♥ !?
4♦ 4♥ (here I was a bit scared that he will pass, i believed it should be cuebid on general principles)
4♠ 4NT (rkc and we are home)
5♦ 5♥
7♦

Contract is good but still i wasn't happy about it all.
If we played 1NT as hearts then it would go:
1♣ 1NT
3♦ (running diamonds ? not interested in other suit ?) and cubids ?

looks a lot more reasonable.
Any suggestions how to make it work without too many complications ?
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