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What's your line? Reno - NA Swiss

#1 User is offline   Echognome 

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Posted 2010-March-22, 17:18

Your opponents are a pair that have played for the U.S. in the Bermuda Bowl.

Scoring: IMP

1 - (P) - 1 - (2);
3 - (4) - P - (P);
4 - All Pass

Lead: A

Plan the play.
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Posted 2010-March-22, 17:50

First option cross ruff finding lho with 4+ hearts and AQ

Ruff, cash 2 clubs, then A and ruff, K and ruff, ruff and 4th ruff.


Scoring 1, 1, 4 ruffs, 2 and leading a heart from dummy.


Now there must be something better scoring 4 club tricks.

4 clubs, 3 trumps, 1 heart, 1 diamond, 1 ruff jsut requires Q onside and everythign 3-2. Looks much better.

We can discard or ruff the first trick, it is hard to say wich one is better, I think discarding.

Next win A and overtake 10 with the king to run 8.
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Posted 2010-March-23, 19:36

Scoring: IMP

1 - (P) - 1 - (2);
3 - (4) - P - (P);
4 - AP

I took a line similar to Fluffy's line 1. However, the 2nd round of clubs was ruffed by East and a diamond was returned. I then changed tack and played for West to be something like Ax xx AQJxx Jxxx. That wasn't a success either.

So to change gears, play or defend 4 after the lead of the A?
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Posted 2010-March-24, 06:03

OMG, do you really mean this is makeable? :unsure:

I can't see a way, looking at RHO's shape we can make 4 and 4 and 1 but that leaves us with stiff king of spades and then he can jus truff with Q and draw trumps.
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Posted 2010-March-24, 12:25

Play

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Posted 2010-March-24, 12:58

DEFEND!!!
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Posted 2010-March-24, 15:52

I choose to play.

Start as before; but when East ruffs the 2nd club and returns a diamond I choose to ruff it in dummy and play a spade off the table. This guarantees two losers in trumps (even if West had the Ace and East the Queen) but allows us to score 2 ruffs, 3 clubs, DK, HA, and the SJ + 4th spade in South hand.
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Posted 2010-March-24, 16:16

shyams, on Mar 24 2010, 10:52 PM, said:

I choose to play.

Start as before; but when East ruffs the 2nd club and returns a diamond I choose to ruff it in dummy and play a spade off the table. This guarantees two losers in trumps (even if West had the Ace and East the Queen) but allows us to score 2 ruffs, 3 clubs, DK, HA, and the SJ + 4th spade in South hand.

What's 2+3+1+1+2 ?
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Posted 2010-March-24, 17:26

gnasher, on Mar 24 2010, 10:16 PM, said:

shyams, on Mar 24 2010, 10:52 PM, said:

I choose to play.

Start as before; but when East ruffs the 2nd club and returns a diamond I choose to ruff it in dummy and play a spade off the table. This guarantees two losers in trumps (even if West had the Ace and East the Queen) but allows us to score 2 ruffs, 3 clubs, DK, HA, and the SJ + 4th spade in South hand.

What's 2+3+1+1+2 ?

LOL, sorry. I should not be posting on BBO when working late from office...
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Posted 2010-March-24, 20:34

mikegill, on Mar 24 2010, 01:25 PM, said:

Play

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You what?

When did you draw West's trump?
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Posted 2010-March-24, 20:38

shyams, on Mar 24 2010, 04:52 PM, said:

I choose to play.

Start as before; but when East ruffs the 2nd club and returns a diamond I choose to ruff it in dummy and play a spade off the table. This guarantees two losers in trumps (even if West had the Ace and East the Queen) but allows us to score 2 ruffs, 3 clubs, DK, HA, and the SJ + 4th spade in South hand.

Post is a little incomplete so I assume you're not doing this after crossruffing and having K10 in dummy and J8 in hand?

Please elaborate so I can disprove.
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Posted 2010-March-25, 06:26

kfay, on Mar 24 2010, 09:34 PM, said:

mikegill, on Mar 24 2010, 01:25 PM, said:

Play

Spoiler

You what?

When did you draw West's trump?


D'oh. I guess I'm going with defend then.
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Posted 2010-March-25, 07:21

I would vote to defend. After ruffing the ace of diamonds, I would try a spade from dummy and East will go in with the queen. Now he needs to cash the ace of spades to beat me, and he may play back a diamond instead, trying to continue the force. Certainly, if West led the ace of diamonds I would play him for the king as East.

So, with the sight of all four hands I defend.
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