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Judgement I

Poll: Rank the following (62 member(s) have cast votes)

Rank the following

  1. Dbl > 1NT > 2H (1 votes [1.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.61%

  2. Dbl > 2H > 1NT (6 votes [9.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.68%

  3. 2H > 1NT > dbl (15 votes [24.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.19%

  4. 2H > dbl > 1NT (38 votes [61.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 61.29%

  5. 1NT > dbl >2H (1 votes [1.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.61%

  6. 1NT > 2H > dbl (1 votes [1.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.61%

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Posted 2010-March-18, 18:04

Scoring: IMP


If you feel you need ">>" or "=" please say!

Edit: partner deals and passes. Next hand opens 1♠
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Posted 2010-March-18, 18:19

2H, dbl, 1NT
OK
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Posted 2010-March-18, 18:32

jjbrr, on Mar 18 2010, 07:19 PM, said:

2H, dbl, 1NT

Its more like:

2♥..Dbl.............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................1N
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Posted 2010-March-18, 18:37

2♥ for me.

I guess if you double partner might bid 1NT and you get to 3NT from the right side, whereas if you overcall 1NT you can likely play there when it is right, but might have wrongsided 3NT.
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Posted 2010-March-18, 18:39

2H. The H suit is not ideal for this, but I do have a bit of extra strength. Lol at 1NT.
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Posted 2010-March-18, 18:49

I definitely want the >> here, between 2H and anything-else.
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Posted 2010-March-18, 18:51

2H>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dbl>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1NT

Some problems might be 2H>Dbl>>1NT but this one is a 2H and a lot of ">" characters.
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Posted 2010-March-18, 21:27

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Posted 2010-March-19, 01:50

2 ♥ = 2 Heart nothing else fits...
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Posted 2010-March-19, 03:50

At the table I bid 2♥, which is where I played. Dummy tabled a 1=1=6=5 and by two careful misdefenses I brought it home (diamonds were 4-1). The consensus was that double is better, so I can hold my head high again.

Interesting that the poll ranks 2H > 1NT > dbl clear second where no poster advocates that. I play with one partner that extrapolates the "open 1NT with any 5M332" to overcall with one too--- was it the 5 card hearts or the lack of spade stop (or just the presence of both) that makes 1NT bad?
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Posted 2010-March-19, 03:53

Is your T Spades a stopper? There is your answer. Fwiw, double is a silly call.
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Posted 2010-March-19, 05:20

Double caters for the 1165 hands, you are right.
1 NT caters for the hands where partner has a spade stop and no way to bid it.
2 ♥ caters for all other hands.

Maybe a little too polemic, but....
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Posted 2010-March-19, 13:45

2H.

Don't really want to pick between double and 1NT, both are strange imo.
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Posted 2010-March-19, 13:47

2♥ >> Dbl.

1NT is a psyche. Something about promising a stopper.
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Posted 2010-March-19, 17:32

Kind of funny.

Thursday night, I was dealt a 10-count with 3523 pattern. The spade suit, coincidentally, was 10xx. Feeling frisky and eccentric for some reason, I decided to open 1♣.

LHO preempted 3♠, and my partner opted a slow 3NT, which of course ended the auction.

Partner's spade "stopper" was the doubleton QJ -- she decided to wing it. Her three-card heart support, and the stiff spade Ace on lead to my right, was just enough to enable nine tricks before they could get to 5. Plus, at 4♥, the opponents get to 4 before we get to 10.

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Posted 2010-March-19, 18:38

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Interesting that the poll ranks 2H > 1NT > dbl clear second where no poster advocates that.


I was among those voting that option, so I will chime in.

1NT has one strike against it - the lack of a spade stopper. Otherwise I have notrump distribution and values all over. It's a way to get my whole hand off my chest in 1 bid (accepting that partner will expect a little more in spades and a little less in hearts.)

Double followed by 2H may have 2 strikes against it - I'd like to be about half a trick stronger for that action, AND I'd like my hearts to be better than KQxxx to bid them that strongly.

Double followed by, well, any other plan (for instance a suggestion you might play in 2D) doesn't make any sense at all - a 4-2 trump fit with xxx in the opps suit isn't fun.

It wasn't really clear to me what course the doublers intended to follow. In any event, its 2H way out in front, and the other two similarly badly flawed; I don't have any strong feelings what should be 2nd.
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Posted 2010-March-20, 06:03

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1NT has one strike against it


Yeah, partner bidding 3NT with 2 small spades and 3 hearts.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2010-March-20, 07:00

There are times when it's right to bid NT without a stop in their suit, or with something like Qx in their suit, but when it's the suit RHO has opened and LHO is going to lead them, it's pretty silly.
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Posted 2010-March-20, 15:01

Codo, on Mar 19 2010, 07:50 AM, said:

2 ♥ = 2 Heart nothing else fits...

Dbl. Nothing else fits.
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Posted 2010-March-20, 15:07

huh Nuno? Why doesn't 1NT fit for you? :)
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