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#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2010-March-11, 18:35

Scoring: IMP

(2!)-Pass-(3)-4
All Pass
 
2=Muiderberg: weak with 5c and 4c minor
3=preempt (with 0 pts this time)
 
Should we have reached 6?
(We got a lead and made +3 after LHO discarded wrong)
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Posted 2010-March-11, 19:39

I was watching Fred and Brad play bridge and Brad had

xx Axxx xxx AQxx

and in second seat it was

P P 3H 4S
P ?

Brad tanked for forever and bid 5N. Personally I don't like this bid (at all) and was discussing with Justin whether it was worth 5C and eventually decided it was.

This is a different auction, but the whole point is, yes, North should have bid again, and it was pretty obvious.
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Posted 2010-March-12, 03:05

North definitely has another bid, what does he expect partner to hold for vulnerable jump to 4?
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Posted 2010-March-12, 04:16

1. b..s... edited

2. North has 2 tricks + the queen of clubs. He does not know that the queen of heart is of value. I doubt that partner is expecting less after they preempted.

3. Your trump holding could be much better.


I would not bid on, this hand is VERY different from the one Brad hold.
Make it
A, xxxx, AQxx, Qxxx and I would make a move.

This post has been edited by Codo: 2010-March-12, 04:50

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Posted 2010-March-12, 04:39

looks to me that any non spade lead is good Codo?

Anywayyy I wouldn't have moved from North. when you have stiff Ace there's a significant % that you have a trump loser.
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Posted 2010-March-12, 04:49

gwnn, on Mar 12 2010, 07:39 PM, said:

looks to me that any non spade lead is good Codo?

blush, ty for correcting.
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Posted 2010-March-12, 05:36

rogerclee, on Mar 12 2010, 01:39 AM, said:

Brad tanked for forever and bid 5N.

5NT??? as judge, I would qualify murder of brad by fred as "fully justified" :rolleyes:
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Posted 2010-March-12, 06:01

gwnn, on Mar 12 2010, 05:39 AM, said:

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Anywayyy I wouldn't have moved from North. when you have stiff Ace there's a significant % that you have a trump loser.

Yes, agree, add to this the fact, that they usually dont jump around
missing AKQx in their trump suit, even being green vs. red, so AQxx
have to be viewed are wasted values, even if you take into account
positional factors.

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Posted 2010-March-12, 06:20

Codo, on Mar 12 2010, 12:16 PM, said:

Make it
A, xxxx, AQxx, Qxxx and I would make a move.

I was North and this was also my thought.
Partner can also have for his 4 bid:
KQJxxxx
x
AQx
Ax
Then 5 is in danger.
Or:
KQJxxxx

AJx
Axx
Then 5 needs a lead
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Posted 2010-March-12, 09:19

Yes, North should have bid again, and it was pretty obvious.

4 shows a strong hand and 2 aces and some stuff is definitely worth some noise from you.
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Posted 2010-March-12, 13:39

gwnn, on Mar 12 2010, 05:39 AM, said:

looks to me that any non spade lead is good Codo?

Anywayyy I wouldn't have moved from North. when you have stiff Ace there's a significant % that you have a trump loser.

Yeah but you'll still make on a strip squeeze.

Edit.... or just a club finesse!! :)
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Posted 2010-March-23, 18:05

rogerclee, on Mar 12 2010, 01:39 AM, said:

I was watching Fred and Brad play bridge and Brad had

xx Axxx xxx AQxx

and in second seat it was

P P 3H 4S
P ?

Brad tanked for forever and bid 5N. Personally I don't like this bid (at all) and was discussing with Justin whether it was worth 5C and eventually decided it was.

Agree that 5C would have been a better bid than 5NT, but in fairness to Brad my 4S bid was very questionable.

The full deal is available here:

Link to deal

Note that I made a subtle error late in the play that, had I avoided it, would have allowed me to get out for "only" -500 in a rather pretty and unusual way :)

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Posted 2010-March-23, 19:03

If you can make game opposite very little you should bid game, I have always believed that and am always amazed by how strong the forums will make a simple overcall with over a preempt rather than just bidding game.

That being said partner in this deal has a huge and and should make a move.
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