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#21 User is offline   RMB1 

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Posted 2010-August-20, 15:44

Phil, on Aug 20 2010, 10:24 PM, said:

My question is unless LHO makes a very fast call over the person making the unintended call, how can a change of call from an unintended party ever be 'without pause for thought'?

Good question.

For no obvious reason, there is an established interpretation to read the law as if it said "... but only if he does so, or attempts to do so, without pause for thought following his realisation that he had not made his intended call.

So a possible scenario is: the player makes an unintended call but does not look at the call he has put on the table; LHO calls; the player looks down, realises he has not made his intended call, and changes for his intended call (without pause for thought from the moment of realisation).

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Posted 2010-August-20, 15:53

Phil, on Aug 20 2010, 10:24 PM, said:

Sorry I'm unearthing this thread again because this situation came up today.

I'm reading 25A:

25A said:


Until his partner makes a call, a player may substitute his intended call for an unintended call but only if he does so, or attempts to do so, without
pause for thought.
The second (intended) call stands and is subject to the appropriate law.


My question is unless LHO makes a very fast call over the person making the unintended call, how can a change of call from an unintended party ever be 'without pause for thought'?

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Because pause for thought is to be measured from the moment the player becomes aware of his "misbid", not from the time he actually made it.

Say that his LHO (West) makes a call, East alerts and North asks about the call. If the explanation then given by East is what makes the player (South) realize that he has accidentally misbid and then immediately tries to announce this fact he is still within the conditions for allowing a Law 25A correction of his call.
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  Posted 2010-August-23, 06:01

I think it is not just accepted interpretation: I also think it logical. If I make a bid, look at the legs of the girl at the next table, come back to earth, glance down, see I have not made the bid I thought I had, and immediately try to change it, then there has been no pause for thought. I cannot be thinking of whether I have made the correct bid or not when I do not realise what the bid in front of me is. Yes, I am pausing while looking at the legs, but not "for thought", or at least not for thought relevant to the bid I made or intended to make.
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