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7. Full disclosure is very nice, but the explanations should only be shown to the opponents, else it will merely be used by a majority as a tool to find the right bid and be notified what the meaning of their partners bid is.
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Full disclosure only for OPPS NOOSANCE's Letter to Fred
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Posted 2010-February-05, 06:50
It takes a long time to completely fill out a FD card. Those who take the time surely have access to their system notes which they can just as easily refer to during an auction.
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Posted 2010-February-05, 06:57
And there is more then one mistake in even the bests FD notes. if you do not see them, you cannot help your opps to clarify.
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More system is not the answer...
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Posted 2010-February-05, 07:32
We've had this discussion about FD numerous times before. We haven't settled it then, we won't settle it now.
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Posted 2010-February-07, 00:21
diana_eva, on Feb 4 2010, 09:19 PM, said:
7. Full disclosure is very nice, but the explanations should only be shown to the opponents, else it will merely be used by a majority as a tool to find the right bid and be notified what the meaning of their partners bid is.
By using the Options Button, players can already make these explanations invisible to partner. They are strongly encouraged to do so in serious games/tournaments
Tony
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Posted 2010-February-07, 01:45
Old York, on Feb 7 2010, 07:21 AM, said:
diana_eva, on Feb 4 2010, 09:19 PM, said:
7. Full disclosure is very nice, but the explanations should only be shown to the opponents, else it will merely be used by a majority as a tool to find the right bid and be notified what the meaning of their partners bid is.
By using the Options Button, players can already make these explanations invisible to partner. They are strongly encouraged to do so in serious games/tournaments
Tony
I would strongly recommend that players NOT use FD at all in serious games/competitions. Codo's point is highly relevant. Use FD and you are placed on the horns of an impossible dilemma: Remind yourself of your system or leave uncorrected the nonsense conveyed to the opponents. FD has a generation or two to go before it is sufficiently user-friendly in the design phase for serious use.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
s
t
r-m
nd
ing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
str-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2010-February-08, 03:01
1eyedjack, on Feb 7 2010, 08:45 AM, said:
I would strongly recommend that players NOT use FD at all in serious games/competitions. Codo's point is highly relevant. Use FD and you are placed on the horns of an impossible dilemma: Remind yourself of your system or leave uncorrected the nonsense conveyed to the opponents. FD has a generation or two to go before it is sufficiently user-friendly in the design phase for serious use.
FD is an important tool for online bridge. The manual alerting procedure is a minefield.
I agree that many FDCCs contain errors. The BBO Standard Acol FD is riddled with many mistakes, especially in 4SF sequences.
I have no serious objection to players monitoring their own bids, and correcting or alerting manually.
No player should ever be able to see explanations of his partner's bids, especially in Tournaments, Team Games or any "serious" game. I can only assume that this was allowed for the purpose of teaching etc and any other situation is misuse of FD.
Tony
http://www.bridgebase.com/help/3/common/te....html?fdoptions
IMHO options 1 and 3 should never be used outside of teaching tables etc
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