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#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2010-January-21, 11:40

W/R, Bidding goes:

Pa 1♣ 1♥ X
Pa 3♠ Pa 4♠
Pa Pa ...

And you hold:

♠Kx
♥KJxxx
♦987xxx
♣

How bad is bidding 5♦? Is there any medication that can be taken against this sickness?

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


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Posted 2010-January-21, 11:48

Hanoi5, on Jan 21 2010, 12:40 PM, said:

W/R, Bidding goes:

Pa 1♣ 1♥ X
Pa 3♠ Pa 4♠
Pa Pa ...

And you hold:

♠Kx
♥KJxxx
♦987xxx
♣

How bad is bidding 5♦? Is there any medication that can be taken against this sickness?

pretty bad :) As far as a cure...well I have my tantō back from the sharpeners, guaranteed to eliminate all your problems :)

BTW why not 2NT over 1♣. Doesnt' that show this hand?
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Posted 2010-January-21, 11:50

2NT first round. I need some cards always for these 2 suited calls but when I'm favourable "some cards always" is open to interpretation.

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Posted 2010-January-21, 11:52

I wish I had a way to show the two lowest unbid suits in one bid at the first go so I wouldn't feel guilty about passing later on.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2010-January-21, 13:35

Ya especially favorable you have to get both suits into the picture early when you can.
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Posted 2010-January-21, 14:35

Nobody says these sentences as well as Josh does. I can just see the look on his face.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-January-21, 14:45

in some partnerships this suit qualities wouldn't be enough for 2NT and I'd bid 1♥, but that's the same reason where I'd pass later.
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Posted 2010-January-21, 16:23

I usually don't have a way to show the two lowest unbid suits in one bid at the first go - I prefer to be able to show KJxxx Kx 987xxx void, and live with the guilt when I've got the red suits.
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Posted 2010-January-21, 16:33

I recommend ghestem in that case, it seems like it solves all these problems with no downside at all.
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Posted 2010-January-21, 20:34

Meh I think overcalling 1H is ok, but lol at bidding now. Some people just refuse to defend.
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Posted 2010-January-21, 21:45

jdonn, on Jan 21 2010, 05:33 PM, said:

I recommend ghestem in that case, it seems like it solves all these problems with no downside at all.

Isn't this the single most forgotten convention ever? That would be a downside.
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Posted 2010-January-21, 22:17

5D here is very considerate. "Opponents, you didn't bid your 6S so here is 1400 for you."
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Posted 2010-January-22, 00:57

Hanoi5, on Jan 21 2010, 12:40 PM, said:

W/R, Bidding goes:

Pa 1♣ 1♥ X
Pa 3♠ Pa 4♠
Pa Pa ...

And you hold:

♠Kx
♥KJxxx
♦987xxx
♣

How bad is bidding 5♦? Is there any medication that can be taken against this sickness?

The counter measure is easy - show your suits at once.

And if you want to compete, bid 4NT - this would show a 2-suiter,
with a undisclosed higher ranking suit, which is shorter.
But since you overcalled the higest ranking missing suit - you will
have a 2-suiter with a longer lower ranking suit, if you bid this
undiscussed, you need to assume to have a p on the same page
with you.

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Posted 2010-January-22, 07:12

jdonn, on Jan 21 2010, 11:33 PM, said:

I recommend ghestem in that case, it seems like it solves all these problems with no downside at all. :rolleyes:

Fixed that for you.
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