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One hand, three decisions

#21 User is offline   MFA 

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Posted 2010-January-20, 12:26

Pls start bidding :)

2 over 1NT
X of 2 then 3 to show a good diamond overcall, 2 is acceptable but conservative
2 over 2
4 in the third (unlikely) scenario

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Posted 2010-January-20, 13:44

gnasher, on Jan 20 2010, 05:10 AM, said:

The worry about being raised to game puzzles me. When one of the opponents has an opening bid and a balanced hand, game for our side isn't very common. In my experience, when they open a 12-14 notrump, it'll be a partscore deal at least 10 times as often as we have a game. Your main objective when you come in should be to compete the partscore, and your style should be geared to that objective.

Does advancer make a similar adjustment? Say advancer has a balanced 12-count - he bids 2D and finds an 8-card major suit fit. Does he tend to pass out 2x or invite?

And what is the maximum for this Landy bid? Do you tend to double with a 15-count (54)(13)?
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Posted 2010-January-20, 15:19

quiddity, on Jan 20 2010, 08:44 PM, said:

Say advancer has a balanced 12-count - he bids 2D and finds an 8-card major suit fit.  Does he tend to pass out 2x or invite?

You might have to give me a specific hand, but a 12-count with 3-3 in the majors probably isn't enough to invite. With four-card support it probably would be.

One advantage of a Landy-style 2 is that with four spades advancer can show an invitational hand at the two level: he bids 2, then converts 2 to 2. If opener bids 2 in reply to 2, there's a known 9-card fit, so advancer will be happier about raising to the three-level.

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And what is the maximum for this Landy bid?  Do you tend to double with a 15-count (54)(13)?

No, I'd tend to show the majors, but with any more I'd usually double.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-January-20, 21:59

Jlall, on Jan 19 2010, 10:52 PM, said:

That being said, at MP and especially w/w, it is very important to me to compete for the partial, especially with the majors. It is to me a NECESSARY evil to lose accuracy on game bidding in order to be able to fight for the partscore more often at this vulnerability/form of scoring. Missing a game/overbidding to a game is no worse than missing your +110 or -50 save is.

Agree with all of this. Partner knows it's matchpoints also and the value of protecting the plus.

Even thinking about defending 2x is crazy. This is a simple hand evaluation problem and has nothing to do with the form of scoring. Curt's law of partial tricks says they have about 4 more spade tricks on play than on defense to hearts. You can't gain by defending, least of all at these colors, bid out.
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