[kayin801]

Scoring: IMP

P-P-1♠-?

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___ is a twisted bid, and ___ is suicidal. ___ feels out of place while ___ could work out. So I pick ___, WTP? (Additional explanation allowed if desired ;P)

[jjbrr]

I'd double. Sorry, I'm not clever enough for the rest of it.

[Jlall]

routine X, don't be a genius

[gwnn]

2♣ is a twisted bid, and 2♠ is suicidal. 1NT feels out of place while pass could work out. So I pick dbl, WTP? (Additional explanation allowed if desired ;P)

[Fluffy]

lol csaba

[hanp]

gwnn, on Jan 19 2010, 04:35 AM, said:

2♣ is a twisted bid, and 2♠ is suicidal. 1NT feels out of place while pass could work out. So I pick dbl, WTP? (Additional explanation allowed if desired ;P)

I pretty much agree with this. Certainly Dbl wtp and pass could work and the rest is terrible.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

X.

At one point in time the add. high card strength is enough compensation for the
missing shape.
It is a matter of agreement, what add. power you need, but 16HCP is certainly
enough for the bid.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[mcphee]

Good golly molly I have a t/o dble, not pretty but perhaps the little extra I deliver in hcp will prevent partner from going down. 2C looks like an option from alice in wonderland.

[ewj]

I would definitely double...some people don't like it with a 4333 and only 3 hearts but you can't afford to pass in my opinion. 1NT would be my clear second choice and I wouldn't ever do anything else..

[whereagles]

routine 1NT, don't be a genius

[Apollo81]

Any call other than ____ is ridiculous.

[jdonn]

Unanimous - whereagles = this poll, right?

[ArtK78]

whereagles, on Jan 19 2010, 10:57 AM, said:

routine 1NT, don't be a genius

We wouldn't want a little thing like not having a spade stopper get in the way of our routine 1NT bid.

While I certainly understand the problem with the handling of this hand, the idea of making a direct 1NT overcall with only a partial stopper in the opponent's suit is frightening. If there is one thing that partner counts on above all else when you make a 1NT overcall is that you have strength in the opponent's suit. Otherwise, constructive bidding becomes nearly impossible.

[jdonn]

ArtK78, on Jan 19 2010, 11:13 AM, said:

whereagles, on Jan 19 2010, 10:57 AM, said:

routine 1NT, don't be a genius

We wouldn't want a little thing like not having a spade stopper get in the way of our routine 1NT bid.

While I certainly understand the problem with the handling of this hand, the idea of making a direct 1NT overcall with only a partial stopper in the opponent's suit is frightening. If there is one thing that partner counts on above all else when you make a 1NT overcall is that you have strength in the opponent's suit. Otherwise, constructive bidding becomes nearly impossible.

Art, this is whereagles.

I thought I should do the introduction since you have clearly never met him before.

[Apollo81]

jdonn, on Jan 19 2010, 11:13 AM, said:

Unanimous - whereagles = this poll, right?

Unanimous always means -whereagles in these forums.

[kayin801]

I agree X but I thought a few more people would lean towards pass or (gulp) 1NT. Obviously at the table I went down the rabbit hole but that's what happens when you... put a spade with your clubs... (no rational defense for my actions except not playing a very competitive game)

Btw I'm glad at least one person humored me. Now gwnn is my new hero on the forums.

[pooltuna]

Jlall, on Jan 19 2010, 01:24 AM, said:

routine X, don't be a genius

routine X, K.I.S.S.