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#1 User is offline   OleBerg 

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Posted 2010-January-08, 05:37

Imps, all red, your move:

Scoring: IMP


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Posted 2010-January-08, 05:40

It's the Boss suit. I would. I might regret it but I would.
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 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


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Posted 2010-January-08, 05:52

Pass man...
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Posted 2010-January-08, 06:22

2 ? Ok 6 card suit and the HCP strength - but this hand is by no means a weak two, the points are totally wrong placed.

1 6 cards and a 11 bean counter points- but is this an opener?

pass? And how to show this hand later?

I go with pass and hate it, but I hate anything else even more.
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Posted 2010-January-08, 06:39

Pass, and I'd consider myself a light opener. The hand is quacky, balanced, QJ tight and Qx doubleton...
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Posted 2010-January-08, 06:44

easy one spade but then partner knows we open at the one level with all 11 hcp hands and a six card suit. that means we could have worse than this.

Pass would look like:

KJx....Qxxx...Qxx....QJx

If you prefer to open more sound npp, just tell me!
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Posted 2010-January-08, 07:15

1. I don't pick up so many 6-card spade suits that I'm prepared to pass this.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-January-08, 07:42

The way I learned is that there's no such thing as a tweener. Six card majors and appropriate shape open 1 or 2, but never pass. Otherwise how to possibly show this later? I call this one 2, but I see I am all alone.
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Posted 2010-January-08, 08:13

Tough hand, but I would travel the 2 road.
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Posted 2010-January-08, 08:20

Not enough to open 1 aceless and vulnerable
Too much to pass
I would also open 2, partner can expect a fair hand 1st seat red vs red, the weakness in spades is a problem, but the queens are some compensation

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Posted 2010-January-08, 08:29

1, yes I know it is not a very good hand.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2010-January-08, 08:33

bleh you guys are sickos
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Posted 2010-January-08, 08:35

billw55, on Jan 8 2010, 08:42 AM, said:

The way I learned is that there's no such thing as a tweener. Six card majors and appropriate shape open 1 or 2, but never pass. Otherwise how to possibly show this later? I call this one 2, but I see I am all alone.

no you're not ;)
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Posted 2010-January-08, 08:39

pooltuna, on Jan 8 2010, 09:35 AM, said:

billw55, on Jan 8 2010, 08:42 AM, said:

The way I learned is that there's no such thing as a tweener.  Six card majors and appropriate shape open 1 or 2, but never pass.  Otherwise how to possibly show this later?  I call this one 2, but I see I am all alone.

no you're not ;)

Pretty sure this is one of those things that lots of people teach that is absolutely terrible advice. The flaw in the thinking is that whether or not to preempt is determined by points, which it is not. So the thought process should be:

1) Is my hand good enough to open at the 1 level? If yes, open. If not...

2) Should I preempt with my hand? If you solve this based on how many points you have, then yes, there is no in between hand. If you play bridge and evaluate based on suit quality, spots, shape (6322 bad), vulnerability, position, how much values you have outside, etc etc, then I think you will judge that this hand is NOT suitable for a preempt so...

3) Pass.
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Posted 2010-January-08, 08:58

Jlall, on Jan 8 2010, 09:39 AM, said:

2) Should I preempt with my hand? If you solve this based on how many points you have, then yes, there is no in between hand. If you play bridge and evaluate based on suit quality, spots, shape (6322 bad), vulnerability, position, how much values you have outside, etc etc, then I think you will judge that this hand is NOT suitable for a preempt so...

Yes that is what I meant, for a hand that is otherwise suitable for a preempt, there is no tweener.

In this case, I did judge it suitable for a preempt. Could be wrong judgement, I suppose.
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Posted 2010-January-08, 09:28

a sicko 1 here.
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Posted 2010-January-08, 10:12

Can't pass, or partner will take my 2 spades bid later as a fit-bid

2 looks right to me, but its more like apartnership agreement, with some partners I'd bid 1.
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Posted 2010-January-08, 10:27

I think the advice is good that no hands are in between 1 and 2. But that doesn't mean you never pass since a hand can be in the strength range for 1 or 2 but otherwise unsuitable. I never realized the advice could be interpreted to mean never ever pass with a 6 card suit?

Pass or 1 on this hand I don't care much.
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Posted 2010-January-08, 15:08

Pass (bad suit, bad dist, lots of outside quacks, bad vul).
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Posted 2010-January-08, 16:01

1S with most my partners, but pass with the ones who expect sound opening bids.

Anybody's vote different in 3rd seat? (I ask because I saw an almost spot-for-spot identical hand in 3rd seat in a team match earlier this week. The person holding the cards bid 1S, which I think was obvious, but the kibitzers were criticizing him for not opening 2.)
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