[principe45]

Sono stato bannato da BBO ecco il motivo:
Torneo di xxxxx (name deleted by moderator)
1° Board primo a parlare... in 13 carte ho solo 4pt: A♣ nel frattempo salutavo il compagno e gli opponenti ed è partito da solo un 5♠ dico al tavolo che è stato misclick ma l'avversario mette contre e chiamo il direttore per chiedere il 50% o l'ave... risultato giocata la mano 5♠ x -6 richiamo il direttore e dico che non è cosa corretta... lui se ne frega altamente. Il mio P per ripicca alla successiva licita gioca 7ntxx -13 a quel punto richiamo il direttore per un sub e invito dalla lista il sostituto ed esco. Risultato finale bannato per sempre da BBO.
Vi sembra giusto ?


Sorry for my English
BBO banned me
Tourney xxxxxxxx 1st board misclick 5♠ i have just 4 hpt : A♣ call director for undo o ave ops play (very gentleman) 5♠ x down 6. Call again director for adjust and this no concede ave. My pard second board play 7ntxx 13 down and i call director for sub and click player in substitute for change.
Result banned from BBO
I d't know this

This post has been edited by inquiry: 2004-July-06, 14:24

[xx1943]

principe45, on Jul 6 2004, 03:05 PM, said:

Tourney xxxxxx (bad player and bad director)

Hi
This one phrase is enough to ban you from BBO. It is not tolerable to accuse any people publicly.
In this forum all complaints have to be anonym.
to complain with names you have to report to ABUSE:

abuse@bridgebase.com

Al



name deleted by moderator

This post has been edited by inquiry: 2004-July-06, 14:25

[principe45]

cancelled ok ?

[inquiry]

Normally, displinary action is not discussed in a public forum. But you raised the question of why you were banned, and even appear to talked a bit about the hands (And players involved). It is hard for me to tell what you are complaining about specifically, but here is the answer to why you were barred.

These three hands alone, played in a tournment, is enough to get you banned for a long, very long time imho.

7NExx-13    -7600    -24
7NWxx-12    -4600    -23.9
7NWxx-13    -7600    -24

I have been playing bridge for longer than I care to admit, and I have never seen a 24 imp hand at the table. You had three in a row. Your bidding and play on these hands show a total disregard for the integrity of the game.

Sadly, I couldn't translate your intiial post. You may think you have good reason to bid in such a manner, but in fact, there is no excuse for it. However, you have an appeal process. You can write to abuse@bridgebase.com, and defend your actions, or maybe apologize and promise not to disrupt the game again. The 48 imps you handed one pair here and 36 to another, make it impossible for anyone else to ahve a chance to win (besides these two pairs). Such activity is not allowed, and is specifically stated so in the RULES of the SITE. Should you get another chance, I suggest you read them.

Ben

[principe45]

inquiry, on Jul 6 2004, 03:42 PM, said:

Normally, displinary action is not discussed in a public forum. But you raised the question of why you were banned, and even appear to talked a bit about the hands (And players involved). It is hard for me to tell what you are complaining about specifically, but here is the answer to why you were barred.

These three hands alone, played in a tournment, is enough to get you banned for a long, very long time imho.

7NExx-13    -7600    -24
7NWxx-12    -4600    -23.9
7NWxx-13    -7600    -24

I have been playing bridge for longer than I care to admit, and I have never seen a 24 imp hand at the table. You had three in a row. Your bidding and play on these hands show a total disregard for the integrity of the game.

Sadly, I couldn't translate your intiial post. You may think you have good reason to bid in such a manner, but in fact, there is no excuse for it. However, you have an appeal process. You can write to abuse@bridgebase.com, and defend your actions, or maybe apologize and promise not to disrupt the game again. The 48 imps you handed one pair here and 36 to another, make it impossible for anyone else to ahve a chance to win (besides these two pairs). Such activity is not allowed, and is specifically stated so in the RULES of the SITE. Should you get another chance, I suggest you read them.

Ben

Il torneo durava 12 board 16' per round = 2h ed eravamo al 1° board che senso aveva continuare per altre 2 ore ? Perchè non vengono mai puniti i direttori e solo i giocatori ?
Principe45 very very very gentleman

[inquiry]

From babblefish, I know you are unhappy with director. But why is still a mystery. But whatever reason, does not allow you to ruin the game for others. The correct way is to report to abuse@bridgebase.com

Some of our italian friends might translate your complaint for the rest of us.

Ben

[Chamaco]

principe45, on Jul 6 2004, 09:15 PM, said:

inquiry, on Jul 6 2004, 03:42 PM, said:

7NExx-13    -7600    -24
7NWxx-12    -4600    -23.9
7NWxx-13    -7600    -24


Ben

Il torneo durava 12 board 16' per round = 2h ed eravamo al 1° board che senso aveva continuare per altre 2 ore ? Perchè non vengono mai puniti i direttori e solo i giocatori ?
Principe45 very very very gentleman

To the english readers:
I will summarize quickly Ben's thoughts below, in italian, for Principe to understand.
I also added that he (Principe) can refer to the italian yellows.

What Principe is saying is in short:
- 1st board of the tourney he was still chatting and misclicked the 5!s bid while having only 4 hcp.
He called director to ask for undo or average score, but opps did not agree.
He called director again at the end of the hand, saying that was unfair but the result remained.

The board after, it was HIS PARTNER (not Principe) who bid by irrritation 7NTXX down many . (At least so it seems from the obviously confused explanation given in the post.)
Principe called director again to ask to be substituted because he did not want to play with such pard (and probably in the tourney neither- my own consideration).

after he was substituted in the tourney, he found out he was banned.

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Per Principe:
Sintetizzo in breve il concetto espresso da Ben (Inquiry):

1) di solito non si discute pubblicamente sul forum delle azioni disciplinari.
Se intendi farlo, rivolgiti ad abuse@bridgebase.com.
Aggiungo personalmente che puoi fare riferimento a Vincenzo o Beky per parlare in italiano.

2) Tuttavia, Ben aggiunge che, qualunque torto ti sia stato fatto, ANCHE SE AVEVI RAGIONE, non giustifica minimamente il fatto di regalare 3 boards agli avversari, distorcendo malamente la classifica di tutto il torneo.
Questo fatto da solo giustifica la tua espulsione, secondo Ben.
Ho spiegato meglio la tua versione al pubblico inglese.

[vincenzo]

Principe45 wrote me and I have answered him that in any case he had to accept td decision and then he could write me or to abuse about td or opps behaviour.
I have sent uday an email explaining what has happened (chamaco has translated on his post), and Uday can decide when and if unban principe45.

Vincenzo

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