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#1 User is offline   kfay 

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Posted 2009-December-15, 11:28

Scoring: IMP

P-(P)-1-(2)
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Posted 2009-December-15, 15:01

No, pass and bid 3 later if possible.

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Posted 2009-December-15, 17:40

plz do not X!
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Posted 2009-December-15, 17:44

As a passed hand you can bid 2 (no you don't promise spade tolerance!). If you weren't a passed hand you could double. Don't pass!
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Posted 2009-December-15, 18:00

jdonn, on Dec 15 2009, 06:44 PM, said:

As a passed hand you can bid 2 (no you don't promise spade tolerance!). If you weren't a passed hand you could double. Don't pass!

No you can't!

5 hearts and 10 points is a lot different than 6 hearts and 6 points!
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Posted 2009-December-16, 06:30

we can pass and when our partner reopens (we hope) bid 2 or 3H. I think a direct 2H is overstating things.
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Posted 2009-December-16, 09:13

kfay, on Dec 15 2009, 12:28 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

P-(P)-1-(2)
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er...No, Thank You....can you loan me a green card I think the previous occupant burned all mine ...he must have thought he didn't need many
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Posted 2009-December-16, 10:21

Jlall, on Dec 15 2009, 07:00 PM, said:

jdonn, on Dec 15 2009, 06:44 PM, said:

As a passed hand you can bid 2 (no you don't promise spade tolerance!). If you weren't a passed hand you could double. Don't pass!

No you can't!

5 hearts and 10 points is a lot different than 6 hearts and 6 points!

What do you want to do, pass? Sorry if I'm being dumb but I refuse and I hate it.
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Posted 2009-December-16, 11:59

I agree with the 2 bid here.

The sixth heart makes up for the lack of high card strength. Partner should not go wild facing a passed hand.
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Posted 2009-December-16, 17:55

jdonn, on Dec 16 2009, 11:21 AM, said:

Jlall, on Dec 15 2009, 07:00 PM, said:

jdonn, on Dec 15 2009, 06:44 PM, said:

As a passed hand you can bid 2 (no you don't promise spade tolerance!). If you weren't a passed hand you could double. Don't pass!

No you can't!

5 hearts and 10 points is a lot different than 6 hearts and 6 points!

What do you want to do, pass? Sorry if I'm being dumb but I refuse and I hate it.

Yep I'm perfectly happy passing, guess that's where we differ.

I do strongly strongly strongly believe you cannot bid 2H with this though. Not saying I'm right necessarily, that's just my belief.
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Posted 2009-December-16, 18:11

Jlall, on Dec 16 2009, 06:55 PM, said:

jdonn, on Dec 16 2009, 11:21 AM, said:

Jlall, on Dec 15 2009, 07:00 PM, said:

jdonn, on Dec 15 2009, 06:44 PM, said:

As a passed hand you can bid 2 (no you don't promise spade tolerance!). If you weren't a passed hand you could double. Don't pass!

No you can't!

5 hearts and 10 points is a lot different than 6 hearts and 6 points!

What do you want to do, pass? Sorry if I'm being dumb but I refuse and I hate it.

Yep I'm perfectly happy passing, guess that's where we differ.

I do strongly strongly strongly believe you cannot bid 2H with this though. Not saying I'm right necessarily, that's just my belief.

The problem I see with X is that you may be making a penalty pass by partner untenable as your -X range is expanding downward too much. And any NFB is already choking partner and will make supporting even harder to justify.
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Posted 2009-December-17, 03:54

I agree with 2 as a passed hand, you are not showing any tolerance for spades
all you have is hearts, so bid 'em.... the bid suggest hearts as a prefered trump suit, nothing more, and 100% non-forcing. Partner's third hand opening could be shaded, planning to pass any bid you made
You are very close to 10 total points, but could not open a weak 2, it is a slight overbid, but the overcall helps
Without the overcall, you would be forced to respond 1NT, not the most descriptive of bids, either.... so 2 is a GOOD bid in this situation

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