[1eyedjack]

Personally I think that this is an OTT reaction. When someone posts crap, a dozen others are not slow to pile in and correct them. Moderators should only step in as a last resort.

[jeffford76]

Phil, on 2015-June-08, 09:21, said:

WD limiting who can post in which forums.

Now, if only you can figure out how a member can filter out certain forums. Its still irksome to click View New Content and see over half of the posts related to issues with GIB.

Or they could just fix every problem with GIB.

[diana_eva]

1eyedjack, on 2015-June-08, 12:16, said:

Personally I think that this is an OTT reaction. When someone posts crap, a dozen others are not slow to pile in and correct them. Moderators should only step in as a last resort.

I agree with you and I wanted to let the community sort it out, like they did so far, and they did a great job. I thought this was a last resort situation, in the end, because this guy is a mentor. As a beginner I would be tempted to give him some credit despite everyone else piling against him, for the mere fact that he's mentoring some beginners somewhere.

[barmar]

1eyedjack, on 2015-June-08, 12:16, said:

Personally I think that this is an OTT reaction. When someone posts crap, a dozen others are not slow to pile in and correct them. Moderators should only step in as a last resort.

That's our usual approach, and it's usually sufficient. But it didn't seem to work in this case. We were getting reports every few days about his apparent trolling. And the "piling" was turning into flame wars and name calling (one of these was split off into a Water Cooler thread). This seemed to be getting in the way of educational information in the N/B forum, so we felt that preventative action needed to be taken.

[gwnn]

Long story short, someone lost their voice of thunder.

[PhantomSac]

This was one of the best moderation decisions in the history of the forums imo. Well done. I think you guys let the lurpoa situation go on for way too long and it almost ruined the forums, now the novice/beginner section was being ruined which is criminal and you guys acted swiftly (enough) and decisively in a fair manner.

Single trolls can ruin entire forums, ensuring that does not happen is what the moderators are here for above all else imo.

[aguahombre]

diana_eva, on 2015-June-08, 12:35, said:

this was a last resort situation, in the end, because this guy is a mentor. As a beginner I would be tempted to give him some credit despite everyone else piling against him, for the mere fact that he's mentoring some beginners somewhere.

I plead ignorance (my usual status); but, something seems wrong here.

I haven't read the applicable threads where the problems occurred; however, how can you laud someone for mentoring and at the same time say what he is advising is unsuitable for those being mentored?

[diana_eva]

aguahombre, on 2015-June-08, 15:00, said:

I plead ignorance (my usual status); but, something seems wrong here.

I haven't read the applicable threads where the problems occurred; however, how can you laud someone for mentoring and at the same time say what he is advising is unsuitable for those being mentored?

I meant if a beginner would see advice from someone who's a mentor for some club, they might be tempted to give that person some credit. There is something wrong, in that some persons aren't supposed to mentor at all, but we only handle the Forums here, can't control what people do elsewhere.

[diana_eva]

Removed a thread discussing abuse issues and guided the poster to handle the issue through the proper channels.

[diana_eva]

Removed some personal attacks from the I/A Forums.

Reminder to new & old posters: please refrain from attacking other posters or make insinuations about other people's skill level. Discuss the bridge, not the person.

[barmar]

0 Carbon posted the same message asking if anyone reads the suggestions in several different threads. I responded to one of them, and deleted the rest because they're redundant.

[diana_eva]

Removed a few references to an external website prompting users to submit their BBO username and password. Please be careful on the internet, don't give away your BBO password into sites or forms that are not part of BBO.

[barmar]

Moved the thread asking about defenses to 1NT from Expert to Intermediate/Advanced.

[diana_eva]

Removed a thread from General Bridge Discussions for breaking the BBF TOS (discussing actions of BBOers who aren't present to defend themselves).

[diana_eva]

Removed a thread from the Offline Bridge forum reporting abuse on BBO and guided the poster to abuse@bridgebase.com.

Thanks to everyone who reported the post.

[mgoetze]

It looks like a thread started by cherdano got deleted? Not worth a mention here?

[cherdano]

mgoetze, on 2015-October-17, 18:28, said:

It looks like a thread started by cherdano got deleted? Not worth a mention here?

It was removed, along with the posts that had triggered it. I have no complaints about how the moderators handled this.

[BunnyGo]

Phil, on 2015-June-08, 09:21, said:

WD limiting who can post in which forums.

Now, if only you can figure out how a member can filter out certain forums. Its still irksome to click View New Content and see over half of the posts related to issues with GIB.

Phil, if you set your link so that it makes it look like you've read all the GIB posts, then they won't show up when you look for new content. I did this a while ago, and if you're interested PM me, and I'll figure out how I did it.

-Ben

[gwnn]

I have no complaints to removing the threads in question but I think the point of this thread was to post every moderator decision, not just the ones that are easy to motivate. I couldn't care less about posts like "removed a thread advertising porn" or what not, but this was a pretty high-profile case so people might want to know about the fact that the threads have been deleted. Alternatively, if the mods prefer not to motivate their decisions, just close this thread or say clearly that only the unimportant decisions will be mentioned here.

edit: this is the fourth time I am asking about this and the mods repeatedly answered that the point of the thread is to document all the mod actions. Could the Mod team please make it an official policy to document every edit, instead of just promising to do so?

[diana_eva]

gwnn, on 2015-October-18, 10:21, said:

I have no complaints to removing the threads in question but I think the point of this thread was to post every moderator decision, not just the ones that are easy to motivate. I couldn't care less about posts like "removed a thread advertising porn" or what not, but this was a pretty high-profile case so people might want to know about the fact that the threads have been deleted. Alternatively, if the mods prefer not to motivate their decisions, just close this thread or say clearly that only the unimportant decisions will be mentioned here.

edit: this is the fourth time I am asking about this and the mods repeatedly answered that the point of the thread is to document all the mod actions. Could the Mod team please make it an official policy to document every edit, instead of just promising to do so?

I haven't posted here because the other mods didn't get to see what was done and discuss how to deal with the situation.

But since it was mentioned, yes I removed two threads from General Bridge Discussion, one started by cherdano and another started by rhm. I also edited and removed some off-topic comments in the Cheating Allegations thread, some of which had prompted cherdano's thread.