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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2009-November-16, 04:29

opps bid unopposed, they are NV at imps

1S-2H
3C-3H
3S-3NT(after a noticeable hesitation)
4H-end

Pard leads a heart and dummy is

KJTxxx
Q
xx
AKxx

Do you call the director? If you call the director LHO says "oh but there were so many options it's completely normal to take my time". Anyway TD nods and instructs you to play on. 4H is 1 down, vs 3N partner has an easy diamond lead and is 3 off. 4S is down 1 only if p leads diamonds from AJxxx Do you call the director again?

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Posted 2009-November-16, 04:40

What's a noticeable hesitation? I think it's prudent to hesitate a little in this situation as a lightening-fast 3NT would show a double diamond guard.

If there is a clear BIT, I think you should call the TD though, as the BIT may suggest doubt about diamonds.
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Posted 2009-November-16, 04:58

Hi,

sure, LHO can take his time as long as he pleases, but after that
his partner should avoid making bids, which are close at best.

If I interpret the auction right, 3S was still searching for the right game,
leaving NT as an option.
Partner said, he wants to play 3NT, and thats it, Pass is basically clear
cut, so the TD should adjust to 3NT -?.
If opener would have bid 4S, than I would have said, ok 4S stands.

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Posted 2009-November-16, 09:12

I think you call the director back and tell him you think that pass over 3NT was a logical alternative and that the BIT suggested 4H over pass. Once you've stated your case in simple terms, let the director do his job.
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Posted 2009-November-16, 10:41

Agree with Tim
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Posted 2009-November-16, 10:53

Sure call the director. And LHO should learn at some point that it's not the hesitation he has to defend, it's his partner's action over it. Opener actually had an interesting problem but pass is most certainly an LA, if not actually the right bid.
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Posted 2009-November-16, 11:26

Of course, the responders are right --except that 4S would not have been acceptable, either.

Unfortunately, too many club-level directors would rule that a pair who would bid that way* even without the hesitation probably don't know how to evaluate after a BIT, telling you to be grateful u are not defending 4S.

*High reverse plus failure to choose 4S/3S.
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Posted 2009-November-16, 15:40

Passing with the stiff Q of hearts is not a logical alternative imo and I think I could make that case.

That being said, call the director because maybe I am wrong and a poll of my peers will demonstrate that it is a logical alternative. It is the director who should decide if it's an LA not me.
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Posted 2009-November-16, 16:34

It's not necessarily your peers we need to be concerned with, Justin, but the peers of the player who bid that way at the table. :angry:
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