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2over1 rebids after 1 club oppenings

#1 User is offline   mdaw 

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Posted 2009-September-28, 16:50

Hi,

I've started learning 2/1 Game Force system and have some simple questions about how does this system work.

Let's consider following bidding:

1 - 1
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What i should rebid with hand KJxx KQxx AJ KQx?
- 1
- 2NT

I suppose 2NT is correct answer, but what shapes are acceptable for 2NT rebid? What about 4-4-1-4 or 4-4-0-5? Is still 2NT correct or 1?

My second problem is:
1 - 1
1 - 1

I suppose 1 means fourth suit, but let's asume both bidders have four spades. How to agree spades after that beginning?

Can you recommend me some books, where i can find those basics? I already have "Two over one Game Force" by Max Hardy and the same title by A. Grant, E. Rodwell.

Thank you for help
David
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Posted 2009-September-28, 16:58

You're correct that 2N with 18-19 balanced is the rebid after 1-1X even with a 4 card major. When unbalanced, say 4414 or 4405 (or (43)15, etc), bid your major naturally showing an unbalanced hand (in the Walsh style, where NT bids can have a 4cM). So with these either 1M or 2M depending on whether you feel you're strong enough to force to game. I'm less sure what's "standard" with 4-4 in both majors, but with an unbalanced hand you're rebidding one of them :).

I think many people play 1 as natural after 1-1-1-1 (and 2 is 4th suit GF). After 2 4th suit GF, 3 would show a good hand with 4 spades I expect (4414 or 4405). I'm not sure this question qualifies as "basics" but hopefully this helps.
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Posted 2009-September-29, 05:28

Rob F, on Sep 28 2009, 05:58 PM, said:

You're correct that 2N with 18-19 balanced is the rebid after 1-1X even with a 4 card major.  When unbalanced, say 4414 or 4405 (or (43)15, etc), bid your major naturally showing an unbalanced hand (in the Walsh style, where NT bids can have a 4cM).  So with these either 1M or 2M depending on whether you feel you're strong enough to force to game.  I'm less sure what's "standard" with 4-4 in both majors, but with an unbalanced hand you're rebidding one of them :)

I think many people play 1 as natural after 1-1-1-1 (and 2 is 4th suit GF).  After 2 4th suit GF, 3 would show a good hand with 4 spades I expect (4414 or 4405).  I'm not sure this question qualifies as "basics" but hopefully this helps.

Thank you for explanations.

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