[jdaming]

Bidding has gone:
1♥ - DBL- RDBL- Pass
2♣ - Pass - ???

Playing with a brand new partner (ADV level) what would you expect the meaning of 2♦, 2♥, and 3♥ to be? Forcing or not? Feel free to comment on any other interesting/non-natural bids here!

What is your favorite system with regular partnership?

[pooltuna]

jdaming, on Sep 25 2009, 02:20 PM, said:

Bidding has gone:
1♥ - DBL- RDBL- Pass
2♣ - Pass - ???

Playing with a brand new partner (ADV level) what would you expect the meaning of 2♦, 2♥, and 3♥ to be? Forcing or not? Feel free to comment on any other interesting/non-natural bids here!

What is your favorite system with regular partnership?

Why bid 2♣. Give the opponents an opportunity to put their heads on the chopping block where you or your partner get a chance to take a whack. This assumes of course that the opponents are not playing "must save" by the bidder after the XX and where pass means "I want to play this XX"

[gnasher]

2♦ is forcing, like an uncontested 1♥-2♦ in Standard American.
2♥ is non-forcing and shows preference.
3♥ ought to be a non-forcing 3-card limit raise, but it's probably treated as forcing by most people.

pooltuna said:

Why bid 2♣. Give the opponents an opportunity to put their heads on the chopping block where you or your partner get a chance to take a whack.

Are you seriously suggesting that there is no hand on which opener should bid 2♣?

[pooltuna]

gnasher, on Sep 25 2009, 06:39 PM, said:

2♦ is forcing, like an uncontested 1♥-2♦ in Standard American.
2♥ is non-forcing and shows preference.
3♥ ought to be a non-forcing 3-card limit raise, but it's probably treated as forcing by most people.

pooltuna said:

Why bid 2♣. Give the opponents an opportunity to put their heads on the chopping block where you or your partner get a chance to take a whack.

Are you seriously suggesting that there is no hand on which opener should bid 2♣?

No I am sure I will eventually run across one but in most cases I think pass should be the first option. Again that assumes XX does not guarantee 3 card ♥ support but is instead meant as "this is our hand"

[mtvesuvius]

pooltuna, on Sep 26 2009, 09:41 AM, said:

gnasher, on Sep 25 2009, 06:39 PM, said:

2♦ is forcing, like an uncontested 1♥-2♦ in Standard American.
2♥ is non-forcing and shows preference.
3♥ ought to be a non-forcing 3-card limit raise, but it's probably treated as forcing by most people.

pooltuna said:

Why bid 2♣. Give the opponents an opportunity to put their heads on the chopping block where you or your partner get a chance to take a whack.

Are you seriously suggesting that there is no hand on which opener should bid 2♣?

No I am sure I will eventually run across one but in most cases I think pass should be the first option. Again that assumes XX does not guarantee 3 card ♥ support but is instead meant as "this is our hand"

x KQJxx xx KQJxx seems like a good example, although even this is a bit extreme. Something like x AQxxxx Qx KJxx is a possibility. I suppose the best example would be something like xx Jxxxx x AKQJx

[aguahombre]

good examples by AK the Volcano. Our agreement is simple --When xx denies fit and establishes it is our hand, getting in the way of the redoubler's follow-up action with a rebid shows a poor hand for defense and extra distribution.

[peachy]

Before going into responder's second calls, hope you both would agree that 2C says "I don't want to defend a low level contract". What one might describe as normal opening hands, would Pass instead of bidding 2C.

[aguahombre]

peachy, on Sep 26 2009, 12:51 PM, said:

Before going into responder's second calls, hope you both would agree that 2C says "I don't want to defend a low level contract".  What one might describe as normal opening hands, would Pass instead of bidding 2C.

not entirely...might have been willing to defend a low-level club contract.

[Codo]

I think ther most common approach here is that XX forces till a penalty double or 2 NT. There is no exception just because partner did not pass.

With my standard partner I play that new suits are forcing, heart raises invitational, club raises forcing. (We cannot have a forcing and a non forcing raise below 3 NT).