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#1 User is offline   georgeac 

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Posted 2009-September-09, 04:24

♠8543
♥AJ85
♦KJ92
♣9

IMPS with a random p in main bridge club on BBO

bidding goes P P P ?

what do you do?
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Posted 2009-September-09, 04:54

This 4th hand decision is easy, whoever my partner is. pass, i'm 90% it's the opps that are making something. in the 10% when it's us that make something, we rate to overbid and go for a minus.

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Posted 2009-September-09, 04:57

If the overbid Csaba passes, this should be a 100 % descission.
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Posted 2009-September-09, 05:38

Pass, don't know what I'm supposed to be liking. However, I'd open it 1♥ if my club was a heart giving me 4540.
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Posted 2009-September-09, 05:56

Even I pass :P
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Posted 2009-September-09, 07:12

georgeac, on Sep 9 2009, 05:24 AM, said:

♠8543
♥AJ85
♦KJ92
♣9

IMPS with a random p in main bridge club on BBO

bidding goes P P P ?

what do you do?

PASS WTP?
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Posted 2009-September-09, 07:18

take out double, wich may be light on this position.
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Posted 2009-September-09, 07:38

Fluffy, on Sep 9 2009, 06:18 AM, said:

take out double, wich may be light on this position.

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Posted 2009-September-09, 07:59

jillybean, on Sep 9 2009, 08:38 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Sep 9 2009, 06:18 AM, said:

take out double, wich may be light on this position.

Director!

Isn't one of your options to correct your call to a legal one? PASS :)
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Posted 2009-September-09, 08:11

WTP Pass here also.
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Posted 2009-September-09, 08:36

Pass. Give me another card in any suit other than that club and I'd open - maybe just give me another jack or a couple of tens and I might - but this is just not good enough.

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Posted 2009-September-09, 14:41

Pass, this is pretty easy.
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Posted 2009-September-09, 14:54

I just wanted to get a few opinions on how horrible opening this was. I bid 1♦ planning to pass anything that partner bid. Partner responds 1♥ and its passed out. We make +2 for a top board. I see that this isnt advisable in the long term by the poll so maybe I should reconsider.
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Posted 2009-September-09, 15:35

georgeac, on Sep 9 2009, 08:54 PM, said:

I just wanted to get a few opinions on how horrible opening this was. I bid 1♦ planning to pass anything that partner bid. Partner responds 1♥ and its passed out. We make +2 for a top board. I see that this isnt advisable in the long term by the poll so maybe I should reconsider.

but you forgot to mention, who forgot to open, and why didn't he compete any further
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Posted 2009-September-09, 15:38

Pass, and this is not even close.

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Posted 2009-September-09, 15:50

georgeac, on Sep 9 2009, 03:54 PM, said:

I just wanted to get a few opinions on how horrible opening this was. I bid 1♦ planning to pass anything that partner bid. Partner responds 1♥ and its passed out. We make +2 for a top board. I see that this isnt advisable in the long term by the poll so maybe I should reconsider.

Hi,

having a few minutes to consider, here are some add. remarks.

If you play with a complete stranger, i.e. you have no clue, who is sitting
across from you, your best bet is to play as close to the book as possible.
I.e. if it comes to opening, you should have something that resembles an
opening bid.
E.g. if you make it a 5 card spade suit and 5440, than this is still an clear cut
pass, but least could claim that you have 15 Pearson Points, enough for
an opening, not a good claim, but at least there may be books out there,
which recommend to open.
The reason to play by the book is simple, you need to minimize the risk of
misunderstandings to have a realistic chance to be succesful.
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Now assume you play with a regular partner, that it depends on your system
and opening style.
If you play light openings, and partiular a 10-12NT opening, than you have to
pass, because you know partner does not have an opening bid, he does not
even hold 10-12 bal.
If you play rock solid opening bids say Roth-Stone, than the arguments for
an opening bid get stronger, I would even say, that you have to open in this
scenario.

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Posted 2009-September-09, 18:12

Obvious pass. Wtp?
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Posted 2009-September-09, 18:41

georgeac, on Sep 9 2009, 05:24 AM, said:

♠8543
♥AJ85
♦KJ92
♣9

IMPS with a random p in main bridge club on BBO

bidding goes P P P ?

what do you do?

Pass, unless you just realized that you are playing a FP system B)...
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