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Posted 2009-August-11, 22:30
I don't think we saw Shawn and Pam at their best in the women's trials. I expect USA2 will be right up there.
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Posted 2009-August-11, 22:40
JanM, on Aug 12 2009, 02:54 AM, said:
Walddk, on Aug 11 2009, 04:57 PM, said:
Bermuda Bowl:
QF: Brazil, Norway, China, Bulgaria
SF: Bulgaria, Netherlands
2: USA2
1: Italy
QF: Brazil, Norway, China, Bulgaria
SF: Bulgaria, Netherlands
2: USA2
1: Italy
Would that be Bulgaria 1 losing in the Quarterfinals and Bulgaria 2 in the Semi's
edited.
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Posted 2009-August-12, 06:03
Bermuda Bowl:
QF: Brazil, Bulgaria, USA1, Norway
SF: Germany, USA2
2: Netherlands
1: Italy
Venice Cup:
QF: Sweden, Denmark, Italy, China
SF: France, USA1
2: Germany
1: USA2
Senior Bowl:
QF: Poland, England, Australia, Italy
SF: USA2, Japan
2: Indonesia
1: USA1
QF: Brazil, Bulgaria, USA1, Norway
SF: Germany, USA2
2: Netherlands
1: Italy
Venice Cup:
QF: Sweden, Denmark, Italy, China
SF: France, USA1
2: Germany
1: USA2
Senior Bowl:
QF: Poland, England, Australia, Italy
SF: USA2, Japan
2: Indonesia
1: USA1
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Posted 2009-August-12, 06:03
Ok lets try
Open
1: Netherlands
2: Brazil
3-4: USA2
3-4: Italy
5-8: USA1
5-8: Norway
5-8: Germany
5-8: Rusia
Women
1: China
2: France
3-4: Spain (yai, go!)
3-4: Germany
5-8: USA1
5-8: USA2
5-8: Italy
5-8: Canada
Seniors
1: Poland
2: USA2
3-4: Sweden
3-4: Indonesia
5-8: USA1
5-8: England
5-8: Japan
5-8: Italy
Open
1: Netherlands
2: Brazil
3-4: USA2
3-4: Italy
5-8: USA1
5-8: Norway
5-8: Germany
5-8: Rusia
Women
1: China
2: France
3-4: Spain (yai, go!)
3-4: Germany
5-8: USA1
5-8: USA2
5-8: Italy
5-8: Canada
Seniors
1: Poland
2: USA2
3-4: Sweden
3-4: Indonesia
5-8: USA1
5-8: England
5-8: Japan
5-8: Italy
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Posted 2009-August-12, 07:44
My vote:
BB:
QF Brazil China USA 2 Russia
SF Germany Italy
2. USA 1
1. Netherlands
VC:
QF Denmark Sweden USA 2 Brazil
SF USA 1 France
2. Germany
1. China
Seniors:
QF Turkey England Japon Brazil
SF Poland Italy
2. Indonesia
1. USA 1
thanks Nick
BB:
QF Brazil China USA 2 Russia
SF Germany Italy
2. USA 1
1. Netherlands
VC:
QF Denmark Sweden USA 2 Brazil
SF USA 1 France
2. Germany
1. China
Seniors:
QF Turkey England Japon Brazil
SF Poland Italy
2. Indonesia
1. USA 1
thanks Nick
This post has been edited by Codo: 2009-August-17, 02:49
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Posted 2009-August-16, 10:07
Codo, on Aug 12 2009, 01:44 PM, said:
...Seniors:
...
1. USA
...
1. USA
Which one of the US teams?
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Posted 2009-August-16, 10:09
Here's my claim to the bottle of wine
BB:
1. Netherlands
2. USA2
3. Brazil
3. Italy
5. China
5. Germany
5. Norway
5. USA1
VC:
1. China
2. France
3. Germany
3. USA2
5. Denmark
5. Italy
5. Sweden
5. USA1
Seniors:
1. Poland
2. USA1
3. England
3. Indonesia
5. Italy
5. Japan
5. Sweden
5. USA2
BB:
1. Netherlands
2. USA2
3. Brazil
3. Italy
5. China
5. Germany
5. Norway
5. USA1
VC:
1. China
2. France
3. Germany
3. USA2
5. Denmark
5. Italy
5. Sweden
5. USA1
Seniors:
1. Poland
2. USA1
3. England
3. Indonesia
5. Italy
5. Japan
5. Sweden
5. USA2
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Posted 2009-August-23, 07:56
BB:
1. Italy
2. USA2
3. Netherlands
3. Norway
5. China
5. Germany
5. Bulgaria
5. USA1
VC:
1. China
2. France
3. Germany
3. USA1
5. Indonesia
5. Italy
5. Sweden
5. USA2
Seniors:
1. Poland
2. USA1
3. Indonesia
3. USA2
5. England
5. Japan
5. Sweden
5. Canada
Peter Gill
1. Italy
2. USA2
3. Netherlands
3. Norway
5. China
5. Germany
5. Bulgaria
5. USA1
VC:
1. China
2. France
3. Germany
3. USA1
5. Indonesia
5. Italy
5. Sweden
5. USA2
Seniors:
1. Poland
2. USA1
3. Indonesia
3. USA2
5. England
5. Japan
5. Sweden
5. Canada
Peter Gill
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Posted 2009-August-26, 09:29
Ok lets go:
Bermuda bowl quarter finals : Germany,U.S.A. 1, Bulgaria and Norway.
Semi final : U.S.A. 2 and China.
final : Italy and winner the Netherlands.
Venice cup quarter finals : U.S.A 1, Sweden, Argentina and Denmark.
Semi final : France and Germany.
Final : U.S.A. 2 and winner China.
Seniors bowl quarter finals australia, Japan, Sweden and the U.S.A. 1.
Semi finals England and Indonesia
final U.S.A. 2 and winner Poland.
Some observations. All U.S.A. teams 2 seem stronger than the first teams.
Australia should put the seniors in the open.
Once i picked the quarterfinalists from each competition, which was hard to do and sometimes real guesswork, the rest of the prediction flowed naturally. But i was never going to predict the Dutch team losing the final of course.
Bermuda bowl quarter finals : Germany,U.S.A. 1, Bulgaria and Norway.
Semi final : U.S.A. 2 and China.
final : Italy and winner the Netherlands.
Venice cup quarter finals : U.S.A 1, Sweden, Argentina and Denmark.
Semi final : France and Germany.
Final : U.S.A. 2 and winner China.
Seniors bowl quarter finals australia, Japan, Sweden and the U.S.A. 1.
Semi finals England and Indonesia
final U.S.A. 2 and winner Poland.
Some observations. All U.S.A. teams 2 seem stronger than the first teams.
Australia should put the seniors in the open.
Once i picked the quarterfinalists from each competition, which was hard to do and sometimes real guesswork, the rest of the prediction flowed naturally. But i was never going to predict the Dutch team losing the final of course.
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Posted 2009-August-26, 09:40
I am sure the Dutch players are very fine, but I have never heard of them so I cannot imagine them beating the likes of Zia, Hamman and Meckwell . My pick for the Bermuda Bowl:
1. USA2
2. Italy
3. The Netherlands
3. Norway
5. China
5. Russia
5. Bulgaria
5. USA1
I don't pay much attention to the other events but my husband and I do enjoy a good bottle of wine. So I'm just going to copy Peter Gill's picks and hope to beat him in the open event.
VC:
1. China
2. France
3. Germany
3. USA1
5. Indonesia
5. Italy
5. Sweden
5. USA2
Seniors:
1. Poland
2. USA1
3. Indonesia
3. USA2
5. England
5. Japan
5. Sweden
5. Canada
Good luck to all!
. My pick for the Bermuda Bowl:1. USA2
2. Italy
3. The Netherlands
3. Norway
5. China
5. Russia
5. Bulgaria
5. USA1
I don't pay much attention to the other events but my husband and I do enjoy a good bottle of wine. So I'm just going to copy Peter Gill's picks and hope to beat him in the open event.
VC:
1. China
2. France
3. Germany
3. USA1
5. Indonesia
5. Italy
5. Sweden
5. USA2
Seniors:
1. Poland
2. USA1
3. Indonesia
3. USA2
5. England
5. Japan
5. Sweden
5. Canada
Good luck to all!
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Posted 2009-August-26, 15:45
No idea for the VC & SB but for the BB I would say:
1. China
2. Italy
3-4. Netherland, USA 2
5-8. Bulgaria, Norway, Russia, USA 1
1. China
2. Italy
3-4. Netherland, USA 2
5-8. Bulgaria, Norway, Russia, USA 1
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Posted 2009-August-26, 16:50
I somewhat understand it looking at the competitiors for USA2/Italy/Netherlands, but there seems to be little love for USA 1? They CLEANED UP at the US trials for the most part, is it really that hard to keep the momentum going? Plus Doub-Wildavsky are stone cold killas.
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Posted 2009-August-26, 18:02
My slight revision (thanks geller and the wisdom of some of the masses)
BB:
1.USA2
2. Italy
3-4: China, USA1
5-8: Argentina, Norway, Egypt, Netherlands
VC:
1. France
2. USA1
3-4: Sweden, Germany
5-8: China, Japan, USA2, Argentina
Seniors:
1. Poland
2. USA1
3-4: Sweden, England
5-8: Japan, USA2, Italy, Indonesia
BB:
1.USA2
2. Italy
3-4: China, USA1
5-8: Argentina, Norway, Egypt, Netherlands
VC:
1. France
2. USA1
3-4: Sweden, Germany
5-8: China, Japan, USA2, Argentina
Seniors:
1. Poland
2. USA1
3-4: Sweden, England
5-8: Japan, USA2, Italy, Indonesia
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Posted 2009-August-26, 19:54
kayin801, on Aug 26 2009, 05:50 PM, said:
I somewhat understand it looking at the competitiors for USA2/Italy/Netherlands, but there seems to be little love for USA 1? They CLEANED UP at the US trials for the most part, is it really that hard to keep the momentum going? Plus Doub-Wildavsky are stone cold killas.
USA2 also has a new partnership which must be considered.
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Posted 2009-August-26, 21:08
BB:
1.Italy
2. Netherlands
3-4: China, USA1
5-8: Germany, Japan , Norway, USA2
VC:
1. France
2. China
3-4: USA1, Germany
5-8: Sweden, Japan, USA2, Canada
Seniors:
1. Indonesia
2. USA1
3-4: Australia, England
5-8: Japan, USA2, Poland, Sweden
1.Italy
2. Netherlands
3-4: China, USA1
5-8: Germany, Japan , Norway, USA2
VC:
1. France
2. China
3-4: USA1, Germany
5-8: Sweden, Japan, USA2, Canada
Seniors:
1. Indonesia
2. USA1
3-4: Australia, England
5-8: Japan, USA2, Poland, Sweden
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Posted 2009-August-26, 21:30
OK, I know nothing and Scotland is too far to go for a bottle of wine. But on the other hand, entry to the competition seems to cost the right amount.
BB:
1.Italy
2. USA2
3-4: Netherlands, USA1
5-8: Germany, Japan , Norway, China
VC:
1. France
2. Germany
3-4: USA1, China
5-8: Sweden, Japan, USA2, Canada
Seniors:
1. Poland
2. USA1
3-4: Australia, England
5-8: Japan, USA2, Indonesia, Sweden
Cheers.
BB:
1.Italy
2. USA2
3-4: Netherlands, USA1
5-8: Germany, Japan , Norway, China
VC:
1. France
2. Germany
3-4: USA1, China
5-8: Sweden, Japan, USA2, Canada
Seniors:
1. Poland
2. USA1
3-4: Australia, England
5-8: Japan, USA2, Indonesia, Sweden
Cheers.
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Posted 2009-August-27, 02:27
Maggie,
Copying my tips for the VC and Seniors is not likely to be any good, since my markets (I do not take bets) for those events fail to separate the contenders:
WOMEN
4.50 China, France 5.00 USA1, Germany 5.50 USA2 15 Sweden 50 Italy
100 Indonesia, Canada, Denmark, Egypt, Australia, New Zealand, Spain, Brazil
200 Japan, Argentina, Venezuela 999 Barbados, Jordan, Morocco, Pakistan
SENIORS
5.00 Poland, USA1 5.50 USA2, Indonesia 12.00 Sweden, Canada 16 England, Japan 50 Australia, Italy, Turkey, India 100 Brazil, Argentina, Egypt, South Africa 200 Belgium, Pakistan 999 Venezuela, Barbados, New Zealand
In my BB market (no bets taken), the contenders are much more separated:
2.10 Italy 5.50 USA2 6.50 Neth'lds 16 Norway 25 USA1, China 66 Germany, Bulgaria 80 Russia, Argentina 100 Brazil, New Zealand 200 India, Chile, Japan
300 Egypt, Chinese Taipei 500 Australia, Mexico, Guadeloupe, Morocco, Pakistan
A FORM GUIDE
Some form from USA's Spingold which was held recently, after their Playoffs is:
- Both teams in the Grand Final of the Spingold included several players
who lost to the Morse - Wolff USA1 Seniors in the USA Seniors Playoff.
- USA1 Open (BB) was seeded 20th in the Spingold and performed accordingly.
Other form:
China Women has dropped their long-standing top pair and selected their 2nd, 3rd and 4th pairs from the past. They are having a lot of training with the sole focus being to win in Brazil.
2009 PABF Championships: China won the Open easily for the 4th year in a row.
With bridge being a Mind Sport, teams who do not have to travel far often perform well. Brazil Open has a strong line-up on paper but not the greatest local form,
I think. Argentina is much stronger on paper than in 2007. Chile tied with Brazil for 1st in last year's South American Championships which I played in. Brazil Women seems to lack some of their top players such as Mandelot and Nogueira.
Any of those teams could do well.
New Zealand has a stronger team than usual in BB.
Sweden has a good young team in the Women's.
Peter Gill
Australia
Copying my tips for the VC and Seniors is not likely to be any good, since my markets (I do not take bets) for those events fail to separate the contenders:
WOMEN
4.50 China, France 5.00 USA1, Germany 5.50 USA2 15 Sweden 50 Italy
100 Indonesia, Canada, Denmark, Egypt, Australia, New Zealand, Spain, Brazil
200 Japan, Argentina, Venezuela 999 Barbados, Jordan, Morocco, Pakistan
SENIORS
5.00 Poland, USA1 5.50 USA2, Indonesia 12.00 Sweden, Canada 16 England, Japan 50 Australia, Italy, Turkey, India 100 Brazil, Argentina, Egypt, South Africa 200 Belgium, Pakistan 999 Venezuela, Barbados, New Zealand
In my BB market (no bets taken), the contenders are much more separated:
2.10 Italy 5.50 USA2 6.50 Neth'lds 16 Norway 25 USA1, China 66 Germany, Bulgaria 80 Russia, Argentina 100 Brazil, New Zealand 200 India, Chile, Japan
300 Egypt, Chinese Taipei 500 Australia, Mexico, Guadeloupe, Morocco, Pakistan
A FORM GUIDE
Some form from USA's Spingold which was held recently, after their Playoffs is:
- Both teams in the Grand Final of the Spingold included several players
who lost to the Morse - Wolff USA1 Seniors in the USA Seniors Playoff.
- USA1 Open (BB) was seeded 20th in the Spingold and performed accordingly.
Other form:
China Women has dropped their long-standing top pair and selected their 2nd, 3rd and 4th pairs from the past. They are having a lot of training with the sole focus being to win in Brazil.
2009 PABF Championships: China won the Open easily for the 4th year in a row.
With bridge being a Mind Sport, teams who do not have to travel far often perform well. Brazil Open has a strong line-up on paper but not the greatest local form,
I think. Argentina is much stronger on paper than in 2007. Chile tied with Brazil for 1st in last year's South American Championships which I played in. Brazil Women seems to lack some of their top players such as Mandelot and Nogueira.
Any of those teams could do well.
New Zealand has a stronger team than usual in BB.
Sweden has a good young team in the Women's.
Peter Gill
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Posted 2009-August-27, 05:21
maggieb, on Aug 26 2009, 10:40 PM, said:
I am sure the Dutch players are very fine, but I have never heard of them so I cannot imagine them beating the likes of Zia, Hamman and Meckwell . My pick for the Bermuda Bowl:
1. USA2
2. Italy
3. The Netherlands
3. Norway
5. China
5. Russia
5. Bulgaria
5. USA1
I don't pay much attention to the other events but my husband and I do enjoy a good bottle of wine. So I'm just going to copy Peter Gill's picks and hope to beat him in the open event.
VC:
1. China
2. France
3. Germany
3. USA1
5. Indonesia
5. Italy
5. Sweden
5. USA2
Seniors:
1. Poland
2. USA1
3. Indonesia
3. USA2
5. England
5. Japan
5. Sweden
5. Canada
Good luck to all!
. My pick for the Bermuda Bowl:1. USA2
2. Italy
3. The Netherlands
3. Norway
5. China
5. Russia
5. Bulgaria
5. USA1
I don't pay much attention to the other events but my husband and I do enjoy a good bottle of wine. So I'm just going to copy Peter Gill's picks and hope to beat him in the open event.
VC:
1. China
2. France
3. Germany
3. USA1
5. Indonesia
5. Italy
5. Sweden
5. USA2
Seniors:
1. Poland
2. USA1
3. Indonesia
3. USA2
5. England
5. Japan
5. Sweden
5. Canada
Good luck to all!
If you "have never heard of them", how on earth can you make a prediction? It would not surprise me if they won.
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Posted 2009-August-27, 05:42
The_Hog, on Aug 27 2009, 06:21 AM, said:
If you "have never heard of them", how on earth can you make a prediction? It would not surprise me if they won.
Just like people who don't watch any regular season NCAA Basketball occasionally submit bracket sheets in the office pool.