[paulg]

It is that time again and I am going to run my Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup and Seniors Bowl prediction competition again.

First prize is a bottle of wine, but winner must collect!

This year, as per Wimbledon, I have provided equality for the Open and the Women's competition.

BERMUDA BOWL

• 4 losing quarter-finalists (3 points each)
  
• 2 losing semifinalists (6 points each)
  
• Runner-up (12 points)
  
• The winner (24 points)

VENICE CUP

• 4 losing quarter-finalists (3 points each)
  
• 2 losing semifinalists (6 points each)
  
• Runner-up (12 points)
  
• The winner (24 points)

SENIORS BOWL

• 4 losing quarter-finalists (2 points each)
  
• 2 losing semifinalists (4 points each)
  
• Runner-up (8 points)
  
• The winner (16 points)

for a maximum of 160 points.

Entry Deadline: Friday 28 August, 2009

Each entry should contain 8 teams for each of the three competitions, namely the four losing quarter-finalists, two losing semifinalists, runner up and winners. You can only have a single entry, but you may change your choice at any time before the entry deadline.

Each team will score the minimum of your placing for them and their final position, for example:

• if you pick a team as a losing quarter-finalist but they win the competition, then you get the points for a losing quarter-finalist
  
• if you pick a team as the winner but they lose in the final, then you get the points for the runner-up.

Information on the teams is available on the WBF website. Note that the conditions of contest for each competition mean that the USA 1 and USA 2 teams must meet in the semifinal if they both progress to that stage.

Good luck!

PS The decision of the organiser is final in all aspects of this competition
PPS You can post entries in this thread, or send me email, or in the comments of my blog
PPPS 'Anonymous' entries will be rejected/deleted
PPPPS All accepted entries will be published on Google Docs following the closing date

[bb79]

here is my first take:

Bermuda bowl:
QF brazil, china, norway, germany
SF usa1, italy
RU usa2
W netherlands

venice cup
QF canada, usa2, france, egypt,
SF usa1, italy
RU germany
W china

seniors
QF turkey, brazil, england, japan
SF usa1, indonesia
RU poland
W usa2

This post has been edited by bb79: 2009-August-28, 12:24

[Walddk]

bb79, on Aug 10 2009, 07:50 PM, said:

venice cup
QF usa1, usa2, france, egypt,
SF germany, italy
RU england
W china

It will be pretty tough for England to finish second given that they did not qualify. Furthermore, it should also be noted that China has withdrawn from the seniors'.

Roland

[bb79]

Walddk, on Aug 10 2009, 02:06 PM, said:

bb79, on Aug 10 2009, 07:50 PM, said:

venice cup
QF usa1, usa2, france, egypt,
SF  germany, italy
RU england
W china

It will be pretty tough for England to finish second given that they did not qualify. Furthermore, it should also be noted that China has withdrawn from the seniors'.

Roland

Thanks, I didnt notice, I was expecting a rematch after last year's wmsg final.

[Phil]

BB:

Winner: Italy
Finalist: USA2
Semi-Finalists: Netherlands, USA1
Quarterfinalists: Bulgaria, Norway, Germany, Chile

VC:

Winner: USA2
Finalist: Germany
SF: China, Sweden
QF: France, Italy, Denmark, USA1

SB:

Winner: USA1
Finalist: Poland
SF: USA2, Japan
QF: England, Sweden, Indonesia, Turkey

This post has been edited by Phil: 2009-September-07, 13:15

[Gerben42]

BERMUDA BOWL

* 4 losing quarter-finalists (3 points each) : USA 1, GERMANY, ARGENTINA, RUSSIA
* 2 losing semifinalists (6 points each) : NORWAY, USA 2
* Runner-up (12 points) : ITALY
* The winner (24 points) : NETHERLANDS

VENICE CUP

* 4 losing quarter-finalists: DENMARK, USA 2, SWEDEN, [edit]ITALY[/edit]

Spoiler

ENGLAND

* 2 losing semifinalists : GERMANY, CHINA
* Runner-up : USA 1
* The winner : FRANCE

SENIORS BOWL

* 4 losing quarter-finalists : USA 2, AUSTRALIA, JAPAN, SWEDEN
* 2 losing semifinalists : INDONESIA, TURKEY
* Runner-up : USA 1
* The winner : POLAND

Where do I collect the wine?

Edit okay, sadly no England or Netherlands in the VC

[Jlall]

Gerben42, on Aug 10 2009, 02:51 PM, said:

Where do I collect the wine?

Lol, Norway in the semifinals? I will bet that you have no chance at that wine in that case!

edit: Ok maybe that was unfair to norway, but no helgemo helness and no aa molberg is very sad Brogeland is the best player ever though so who knows!

[karlson]

BB:
1.USA2
2. Italy
3-4: China, USA1
5-8: Argentina, Brazil, Egypt, Netherlands

VC:
1. France
2. USA1
3-4: Sweden, Germany
5-8: China, Japan, USA2, Argentina

Seniors:
1. Japan
2. USA1
3-4: USA2, Poland
5-8: Canada, Sweden, Italy, England

[Walddk]

Jlall, on Aug 10 2009, 10:23 PM, said:

Gerben42, on Aug 10 2009, 02:51 PM, said:

Where do I collect the wine?

Lol, Norway in the semifinals? I will bet that you have no chance at that wine in that case!

It'll get worse than that, as Gerben, like bb79 before him, thinks that the England women will qualify for the KO phase. It has yet to be seen that a non-participating country will advance to anything.

Roland

[skjaeran]

Jlall, on Aug 10 2009, 10:23 PM, said:

Gerben42, on Aug 10 2009, 02:51 PM, said:

Where do I collect the wine?

Lol, Norway in the semifinals? I will bet that you have no chance at that wine in that case!

edit: Ok maybe that was unfair to norway, but no helgemo helness and no aa molberg is very sad Brogeland is the best player ever though so who knows!

Even without HH and Aa-Molberg we have a team I think will advance to the KO stage. If so, we might beat any team, but just as easily lose to any team advancing from the RR.

Agree that the Netherlands, Italy and USA2 (in that order) seems like the best teams though.

[gwnn]

Walddk, on Aug 10 2009, 11:31 PM, said:

It has yet to be seen that a non-participating country will advance to anything.

how about euro 92?

ok that was 10 days from the start.

[Jlall]

skaeran, on Aug 11 2009, 02:37 PM, said:

Jlall, on Aug 10 2009, 10:23 PM, said:

Gerben42, on Aug 10 2009, 02:51 PM, said:

Where do I collect the wine?

Lol, Norway in the semifinals? I will bet that you have no chance at that wine in that case!

edit: Ok maybe that was unfair to norway, but no helgemo helness and no aa molberg is very sad Brogeland is the best player ever though so who knows!

Even without HH and Aa-Molberg we have a team I think will advance to the KO stage. If so, we might beat any team, but just as easily lose to any team advancing from the RR.

Agree that the Netherlands, Italy and USA2 (in that order) seems like the best teams though.

Yes you are right.

To be honest I looked at all the rosters after my post to Gerben and I think Norway is the 4th best team lol.

So I guess I should LOL myself for being rude to Gerben about putting them in the semis.

Oh and as I said, Brogeland is the best player ever. I stand by that

[Jlall]

Bermuda Bowl:

Quarter Finals: Usa 1, Brazil, Bulgaria, China
Semi Finals: Netherlands, Norway
Finals: Italy
Winners: USA 2

Venice Cup:

Quarter Finals: Germany, USA 2, Denmark, Italy
Semi Finals: USA 1, Sweden
Finals: France
Winners: China

Seniors:

Quarter Finals: England, Italy, Sweden, Japan
Semi Finals: Indonesia, USA 2
Finals: USA 1
Winners: Poland

[Aberlour10]

I don't predict this time, because I have such a strange (but strong) feeling, this year really "all can happen" with a real stunners at the finish.

Robert

[Jlall]

I thought 1 of the south american teams would make it to the quarter finals, didn't know who to pick between argentina and chile and brazil... really rooting for chile though!

[Walddk]

Bermuda Bowl:
QF: Brazil, Norway, China, Japan
SF: Bulgaria, Netherlands
2: USA2
1: Italy

Venice Cup:
QF: Sweden, Denmark, Italy, USA2
SF: France, Germany
2: USA1
1: China

Senior Bowl:
QF: USA2, England, Australia, Italy
SF: USA1, Japan
2: Poland
1: Indonesia

This post has been edited by Walddk: 2009-August-11, 22:39

[JanM]

Walddk, on Aug 11 2009, 04:57 PM, said:

Bermuda Bowl:
QF: Brazil, Norway, China, Bulgaria
SF: Bulgaria, Netherlands
2: USA2
1: Italy

Would that be Bulgaria 1 losing in the Quarterfinals and Bulgaria 2 in the Semi's

[Cascade]

JanM, on Aug 12 2009, 12:54 PM, said:

Walddk, on Aug 11 2009, 04:57 PM, said:

Bermuda Bowl:
QF: Brazil, Norway, China, Bulgaria
SF: Bulgaria, Netherlands
2: USA2
1: Italy

Would that be Bulgaria 1 losing in the Quarterfinals and Bulgaria 2 in the Semi's

And it wouldn't be right for another country to have the advantage of having two teams in the event.

[nige1]

My guesses:

• BERMUDA BOWL
  • Quarter-final USA1 USA2 AUSTRALIA NETHERLANDS
    
  • Semi-final RUSSIA AUSTRALIA
    
  • Runner-up CHINA
    
  • The winner ITALY
  
  
• VENICE CUP
  • Quarter-final USA1 USA2 DENMARK AUSTRALIA
    
  • Semi-final ITALY SWEDEN
    
  • Runner-up FRANCE
    
  • The winner GERMANY
  
  
• SENIORS BOWL
  • Quarter-final ENGLAND BRAZIL JAPAN ITALY
    
  • Semi-final USA2 POLAND
    
  • Runner-up USA1
    
  • The winner SWEDEN

[geller]

The best pair on the Japanese Senior team that won in Beijing was Ino-Abe. This year Ino is back on the Japan open team while Abe is not playing. Given this, the Japan seniors will do well to make the top four. On the other hand the Japan open team has a reasonable chance to make it to the KO round, and if they do that they have a chance to do well.
-Bob (I've been living and playing bridge in Japan for the past 25 yrs)

karlson, on Aug 11 2009, 06:30 AM, said:

BB:
1.USA2
2. Italy
3-4: China, USA1
5-8: Argentina, Brazil, Egypt, Netherlands

VC:
1. France
2. USA1
3-4: Sweden, Germany
5-8: China, Japan, USA2, Argentina

Seniors:
1. Japan
2. USA1
3-4: USA2, Poland
5-8: Canada, Sweden, Italy, England