[y66]

r/r MPs QJ5, 4, KJ, KQJTxxx

RHO opens 1D. You overcall 2C . LHO passes. Pard bids 2S showing a good 6 card suit, forward going but NF. Opener passes.

(1D) 2C (P) 2S
(P) ?

Now what?

[Hanoi5]

Maybe this hand should be played in clubs but if partner has a good 6-card spade suit and I have this I think 4 is a good contract.

[Jlall]

3S is plenty, this hand doesn't play that great in spades.

[Phil]

If 2♠ really represents a six card suit, then I'd bid 4. I think there are way too many minimums that can produce game and pard will not bid it if I just raise.

Usually 2♠ only shows 5 and in that case I would only bid 3.

[Jlall]

Phil, on Jun 25 2009, 02:01 PM, said:

If 2♠ really represents a six card suit, then I'd bid 4. I think there are way too many minimums that can produce game and pard will not bid it if I just raise.

Usually 2♠ only shows 5 and in that case I would only bid 3.

As usual I didn't read the whole OP. Yes if 2S shows a good 6 card suit obviously bid 4S. I question that agreement but it's good on this hand I guess!

[Apollo81]

Why would 2♠ show a "good 6 card suit"? The normal bid here is 3, but with that agreement, 4 seems obvious.

[jdonn]

At least this brought out the very true point that this hand is worth a whole lot more in a 6-3 spade fit than a 5-3 spade fit, the difference is huge.

[Fluffy]

4♠ will probably fail on perfect defence, but lets see if they can find it.

BTW: Do you play 2♦ here as 3 card major stayman?

[mtvesuvius]

4 of them... This will play nicely opposite a good 6 card suit.

[P_Marlowe]

3S.

At MP, it makes sense to ask partner, playing IMPs I would
just shoot it out.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[y66]

Apollo81, on Jun 25 2009, 02:56 PM, said:

Why would 2♠ show a "good 6 card suit"?

That's how I learned to play NF new suit advances at the two level (per Mike Lawrence). He says "decent or better six card suit" so maybe good is an overstatement. Perhaps this isn't standard. Would appreciate feedback.

[neilkaz]

With PD showing a good 6 card suit, I seem to have lots of tricks for him and 4♠ looks to be very clear.

[the hog]

Y66, how do you show a 5 card suit? If you double and then bid 2S, how do you show an invitational hand with 5S? Insisting it is a 6 carder removes a lot of flexibility.

Given the constraints you have imposed, I would bid 4S; as others have pointed out, the 6-3 fit is powerful. You are actually very close to a 4C bid, if your partner would understand it that way - support+excellent 6 carder in C.

[y66]

The_Hog, on Jun 26 2009, 12:53 AM, said:

Y66, how do you show a 5 card suit? If you double and then bid 2S, how do you show an invitational hand with 5S? Insisting it is a 6 carder removes a lot of flexibility.

I play 2-level new suit advances as not forcing.

After pard overcalls 2C, I can't show a 5-card suit directly. If I have a really good 5-card suit (say, 4 of top 5), I suppose can bid 2S. But this is rare.

If I have a good hand, I can cue bid 2D (usually club support and LR+ values for me) and then bid 3S (forcing).

[barryallen]

This must all come down to the definition of a good 6 card suit? If good defines including 2 of the top 3 honours, 4♠ has to be more than favourite. The only real issue looks in ♦ which may be decisive, but opener could easily solve that with the AQ.

If a good 6 card suit is not defined as holding 2 of the top 3 honours, I would settle for bidding 3♠ depending upon what other methods you have of advancing?

[benlessard]

no key card = obvious 3S