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#21 User is offline   skjaeran 

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Posted 2009-June-17, 11:44

3♠, denying a heart stopper.
If partner needs half a stopper, he rebids 3NT.
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Posted 2009-June-17, 14:06

skaeran, on Jun 17 2009, 08:44 PM, said:

3♠, denying a heart stopper.
If partner needs half a stopper, he rebids 3NT.

So you don't really care that if partner has ♥Ax or Kxx you'll have two ♥ stoppers when you're the declarer, but only one if partner declares?

How are you going to ever find a playable contract if you insist on wrong-siding it?
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Posted 2009-June-17, 14:16

ochinko, on Jun 17 2009, 03:06 PM, said:

skaeran, on Jun 17 2009, 08:44 PM, said:

3♠, denying a heart stopper.
If partner needs half a stopper, he rebids 3NT.

So you don't really care that if partner has ♥Ax or Kxx you'll have two ♥ stoppers when you're the declarer, but only one if partner declares?

How are you going to ever find a playable contract if you insist on wrong-siding it?

How is that not equivalent to saying

"So you don't really care that if partner has ♥x or ♥xx you'll have no heart stoppers when partner passes?

How are you going to ever find a playable contract if you insist on playing 3NT with no stopper?"
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2009-June-17, 14:19

ochinko, on Jun 17 2009, 10:06 PM, said:

skaeran, on Jun 17 2009, 08:44 PM, said:

3♠, denying a heart stopper.
If partner needs half a stopper, he rebids 3NT.

So you don't really care that if partner has ♥Ax or Kxx you'll have two ♥ stoppers when you're the declarer, but only one if partner declares?

How are you going to ever find a playable contract if you insist on wrong-siding it?

There's no guarantee that partner has anything in hearts. If partner has solid diamonds and need a stopper from me to make 3NT, it looks pretty stupid to reach 3NT with no stopper at all.

How are you going to ever find a making 3NT if you insist on bidding it without a stopper in opps suit? :rolleyes:

Edit: Josh beat me to it I see...
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Posted 2009-June-17, 14:24

Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. ;)

I didn't mean that what I proposed was standard. I only wanted to say that I think it would be good to have that understanding with partner, as I do with some of my partners, sometimes even successfully. :rolleyes:
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Posted 2009-June-17, 14:30

You have the understanding that if partner asks for a heart stopper she has a heart stopper?
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-June-17, 14:55

hanp, on Jun 17 2009, 03:30 PM, said:

You have the understanding that if partner asks for a heart stopper she has a heart stopper?

yes. doesn't everyone?
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Posted 2009-June-17, 16:11

hanp, on Jun 17 2009, 11:30 PM, said:

You have the understanding that if partner asks for a heart stopper she has a heart stopper?

I really do. Precisely for cases like this. Well, only half a stopper is expected from me as I explained. Would you really like to be in 3NT with only one stopper here?

I mean, if partner only needs one stopper, and she already has it, there would be no need to ask me. She'd just bid 3NT.
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