[the hog]

Again not my hand, but a real hand nevertheless.

All nv
rho opens 1H

You hold:

AKQTxxx
AJT987
void
void

What is your plan? I will post the full hand in a couple of days, and "yes", the H pips are exactly as posted.

[jdonn]

Just 4♠ I guess. I don't know what I can do with all these hearts except lose a couple of them, and there is a chance at a spade loser too. Plus who knows, maybe LHO bids a 7 card minor and partner is there with 5 of them.

[hanp]

4S, I will likely make it.

Slam is possible but the only way that we can find it is if partner shows 4+ (5+?) support. That is quite unlikely and 4S may make life miserable for the opponents. I will double 5m.

[mtvesuvius]

4♠ although I admit that I really want to punt slam.

[mike777]

The_Hog, on Jun 11 2009, 08:03 PM, said:

Again not my hand, but a real hand nevertheless.

All nv
rho opens 1H

You hold:

AKQTxxx
AJT987
void
void

What is your plan? I will post the full hand in a couple of days, and "yes", the H pips are exactly as posted.

4s once again give up on slam after first seat 1h bid.

[Ulrich]

Softly softly catchee monkey. Ich bidden der 1S und wait to see.

[Codo]

Okay, I bite 6 ♠.


Pd may have a yarb with a spade void and I will still make 6 as long as they lead a heart and spades behave.

Besides, espacially when spades do not behave, there are hands, where they can make a lot in a minor and I do not want to encourage them to bid one.

[jdonn]

Codo, on Jun 12 2009, 02:32 AM, said:

Okay, I bite 6 ♠.


Pd may have a yarb with a spade void and I will still make 6 as long as they lead a heart and spades behave.

Besides, espacially when spades do not behave, there are hands, where they can make a lot in a minor and I do not want to encourage them to bid one.

If you are RHO and your partner leads a heart, I'll give 2 guesses at what card you shouldn't play.

[the hog]

And whats more, both guesses would be right.

Anyone considered rho psyched maybe?

[Codo]

[quote name='jdonn' date='Jun 12 2009, 04:35 PM'] [quote name='Codo' date='Jun 12 2009, 02:32 AM'] Okay, I bite 6 [sp].

If you are RHO and your partner leads a heart, I'll give 2 guesses at what card you shouldn't play. [/quote]
Okay, which two?

One example:

Partner lead the 4, you see the 5 in dummy and you look at KQ632.

Which card do you play?
Of course you can read the 4 as a singleton, because your opps always jump to 6 Spade with AJT987 in your suit.
I cannot read leads as good as you- at least not in this case.
But I have a story to tell when I let them make 6 spades because I played an Honour to the first trick.

Your story, how you let 6 spade through because you gifted them two tricks in hearts when declarers holding was AT opposite a singelton 5 will not make it to the journals.

[Hanoi5]

What's the problem with 1♠? I like bidding 4 right away but the only way to find out about slam is to go slow, so 1♠ for me.

[ochinko]

4♠ is probably not that bad, but why should I bid it right away? Can't I double first? Is my hand much weaker than AKQTxxx-AJT9-A-A where you'd double as well (I guess)?

Another question to the 4♠ bidders: If it goes

(1♥) - 4♠ - (4NT/dbl) - Pass
(5m) - ?

are you going to sit?

With that strength and the boss' suit I am not afraid to bid it slowly.

4♠ is KQJxxxx-AQx-Kx-x which has about 3 or 4 tricks less.

[Phil]

Ulrich, on Jun 12 2009, 02:29 AM, said:

Softly softly catchee monkey. Ich bidden der 1S und wait to see.

Has anyone else noticed this guy's remarks?

[jdonn]

Codo, on Jun 12 2009, 03:58 AM, said:

jdonn, on Jun 12 2009, 04:35 PM, said:

Codo, on Jun 12 2009, 02:32 AM, said:

Okay, I bite 6 ♠.

If you are RHO and your partner leads a heart, I'll give 2 guesses at what card you shouldn't play.

Okay, which two?

One example:

Partner lead the 4, you see the 5 in dummy and you look at KQ632.

Which card do you play?
Of course you can read the 4 as a singleton, because your opps always jump to 6 Spade with AJT987 in your suit.
I cannot read leads as good as you- at least not in this case.
But I have a story to tell when I let them make 6 spades because I played an Honour to the first trick.

Your story, how you let 6 spade through because you gifted them two tricks in hearts when declarers holding was AT opposite a singelton 5 will not make it to the journals.

Declarer can ruff his other heart in dummy, what does it matter if you let him win the ten? Ok if dummy is 0166 you got me, although then you might have enough minor suit cards too to realize partner won't have Jxxxx. Ok I give up, can you just show me a full hand where playing low would cost? Dummy is 1192 and he throws a club loser maybe? And what was this hand with a heart and club loser that jumped to 6♠? And I was unlucky enough that partner had the only 5 card holding where he wouldn't lead the ten or the jack as well?

We didn't even mention there is a huge chance the opening leader doesn't even have a heart.

[NickRW]

Phil, on Jun 12 2009, 02:32 PM, said:

Ulrich, on Jun 12 2009, 02:29 AM, said:

Softly softly catchee monkey. Ich bidden der 1S und wait to see.

Has anyone else noticed this guy's remarks?

Ya. Ich have.

[Codo]

[quote name='jdonn' date='Jun 12 2009, 11:53 PM'] If you are RHO and your partner leads a heart, I'll give 2 guesses at what card you shouldn't play. [/QUOTE]
Okay, which two?

One example:

Partner lead the 4, you see the 5 in dummy and you look at KQ632.

Which card do you play?
Of course you can read the 4 as a singleton, because your opps always jump to 6 Spade with AJT987 in your suit.
I cannot read leads as good as you- at least not in this case.
But I have a story to tell when I let them make 6 spades because I played an Honour to the first trick.

Your story, how you let 6 spade through because you gifted them two tricks in hearts when declarers holding was AT opposite a singelton 5 will not make it to the journals. [/QUOTE]
Ok I give up, can you just show me a full hand where playing low would cost? ? And what was this hand with a heart and club loser that jumped to 6[sp]? And I was unlucky enough that partner had the only 5 card holding where he wouldn't lead the ten or the jack as well?

We didn't even mention there is a huge chance the opening leader doesn't even have a heart. [/quote]
1. I bet at the table 95 % of all players will take an honour from KQxxx.
2. Declarer may have a 7240 with solid spades opposite a 3145, 3136 etc and he is able to discard a diamond so that he has no diamond loser anymore.

No this is not very likely at all, but a million times more likely then a 76 hand with exactly AJT987 in the suit you have opened.

3. I wrote ...as long as they lead a heart... so yes, I took into account that this slam will fail when lho is void in this suit.

[the hog]

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We call juniors "kiddies". The kiddy who held this bid 6S. West doubled and south sent it back. Ah, the confidence of youth.
Amusing hand.