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- Csaba the Hutt
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Posted 2009-June-10, 14:26
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
George Carlin
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Posted 2009-June-10, 14:38
Not something I would ever do, but penalty, he was lying in wait.
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- Vesuvius the Violent Volcano
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Posted 2009-June-10, 14:53
Takeout imo.
xxx
x
KJxxx
Qxxx
or so maybe?
xxx
x
KJxxx
Qxxx
or so maybe?
Yay for the "Ignored Users" feature!
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Posted 2009-June-10, 15:12
mtvesuvius, on Jun 11 2009, 08:53 AM, said:
Takeout imo.
xxx
x
KJxxx
Qxxx
or so maybe?
xxx
x
KJxxx
Qxxx
or so maybe?
That seems incredibly dangerous on a non-fit auction.
Wayne Burrows
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True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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- Vesuvius the Violent Volcano
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Posted 2009-June-10, 15:36
Cascade, on Jun 10 2009, 04:12 PM, said:
mtvesuvius, on Jun 11 2009, 08:53 AM, said:
Takeout imo.
xxx
x
KJxxx
Qxxx
or so maybe?
xxx
x
KJxxx
Qxxx
or so maybe?
That seems incredibly dangerous on a non-fit auction.
I didn't say it was a good bid
Yay for the "Ignored Users" feature!
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- Andy Bowles
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Posted 2009-June-10, 17:25
I think it's a good bid.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-June-10, 17:30
gnasher, on Jun 11 2009, 11:25 AM, said:
I think it's a good bid.
Its only good if you have an agreement.
Without an agreement I think I would auto-pass this double.
Wayne Burrows
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2009-June-11, 00:41
Adam is too young for this stuff. 
It is called penalty double and was out of fashion even before he was born.
The surprising concept is, that you double them when you think they will fail.
You should play this in junior events and your score will skyrocket through the ceiling.
It is called penalty double and was out of fashion even before he was born.
The surprising concept is, that you double them when you think they will fail.
You should play this in junior events and your score will skyrocket through the ceiling.
Kind Regards
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
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Posted 2009-June-11, 01:35
Codo, on Jun 11 2009, 06:41 AM, said:
Adam is too young for this stuff.
It is called penalty double and was out of fashion even before he was born.
The surprising concept is, that you double them when you think they will fail.
You should play this in junior events and your score will skyrocket through the ceiling.
It is called penalty double and was out of fashion even before he was born.
The surprising concept is, that you double them when you think they will fail.
You should play this in junior events and your score will skyrocket through the ceiling.
But then it's a junior who has opened 1♥ in third seat (as he happens to be, coincidently).
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Posted 2009-June-11, 01:46
Cascade, on Jun 11 2009, 12:30 AM, said:
Its only good if you have an agreement.
I thought we were discussing the merits of (a) agreeing to play this double as takeout and (b) making a takeout double on xxx x KJxxx Qxxx.
If when you said that it was "incredibly dangerous on a non-fit auction" you meant that it was dangerous to do it without prior agreement, I agree.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-June-11, 03:23
This double doesn't make sense as penalty unless your 3rd seat openings are always real openings, and it doesn't make sense as a general t/o at all.
Btw a hand interested in penalizing opps would start with rdbl, then opener can dbl 1NT if he has a real opening. Or maybe this pair swapped pass and rdbl? Never seen that but I have thought about that it might be fun to play.
I think it should be a specific t/o, probably showing both minors. Not that it will come up very frequently since responder will normally have some spades in this auction. But 5-5 minors is the only thing I can think of.
Without discussion I would never make this dbl.
Btw a hand interested in penalizing opps would start with rdbl, then opener can dbl 1NT if he has a real opening. Or maybe this pair swapped pass and rdbl? Never seen that but I have thought about that it might be fun to play.
I think it should be a specific t/o, probably showing both minors. Not that it will come up very frequently since responder will normally have some spades in this auction. But 5-5 minors is the only thing I can think of.
Without discussion I would never make this dbl.
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