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The Misadventures of Rex and Jay #5660 Ridiculous, even by our low standards!

#1 User is offline   microcap 

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Posted 2009-June-08, 08:15

This was really bad, even for Rex and me.

As always, there will be a part 2 so stay tuned to the Bat-Channel! :D

You hold a nice collection:
Scoring: IMP



You open 1, annoying LHO preempts 3.

In addition to the normal tools, we play that a double by partner here is 10+HCP, and pretty likely not to have 3+ cards in spades and unlikely to have a heart stopper.

Partner bids 4. You rebid 4. Partner bids 4. What do you think he has? What is your next bid? :)
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Posted 2009-June-08, 08:40

4 - still looking for the right strain. Masterminding since it was a posed problem, 5N pick a slam :).

If I understand your double style, partner is more likely to have wasted heart values by taking other actions than double? This seems to suggest caution.

As for what I expect from partner, seems like he could have:

1) slam interest with clubs, too good for 5, or
2) a semibalanced/flexible hand with clubs, unsure what strain is right
3) a balanced hand with stopper(s) too good for a direct 3N (or do you start those with double?)
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Posted 2009-June-08, 08:49

I don't worry about what partner has. I am going to bid my hand. I bid 4.
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Posted 2009-June-08, 08:51

Partner's 4 doesn't necessarily promise slam interest, he is just looking for the best strain.
Such a hand necessarily has quite a bit of values though, so I have slam interest. I would bid 5N, expecting to play 6.
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Posted 2009-June-08, 09:13

I raise partner every chance I get, s 5 it is.

Not that I intend to pass 5, but It cannot hurt to give partner the chance to bid 5NT or jump to 6. (The last instead of merely taking preference in 6.) Partner will be slightly less indulged to take us to a grand, when we dont belong there.
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Posted 2009-June-08, 09:16

I bid 4 now and hope it's not passed around. Partner can have anything, but there is some possibility of diamond support in his hand, though I'm not quite sure.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2009-June-08, 09:37

I think 4 is utterly feeble. I would go for 5NT, 6 being a fair alternative but I think it rules out diamonds too often.
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Posted 2009-June-08, 10:27

4? WHAT?!

Partner bid FOUR CLUBS!!! I can bid slam on my own, thank you very much.

Now if I only knew what was best....

I think that 5NT eats up too much room here and we'll never get to grand when it's right. But maybe 3 scuttled that anyway... bidding 5 won't make for easy continuations as nice as it seems.

could easily be the best strain and I think that bidding 5NT will eliminate this possibility. Partner is missing the AKQ and definitely cannot imagine that I have 5 of them. I'll bid 5 for now then. If partner bids 5 his shape becomes more clarified. Plus I'd really like to play in 6 opposite Qx (hopefully the 10... or the 9) since we're totally going to get a spade ruff against us in 6-minor, and we are probably not getting there either after 5NT.
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Posted 2009-June-08, 13:02

4H shows slam interest in diamonds. I will bid 5H.
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Posted 2009-June-08, 14:53

Jlall, on Jun 8 2009, 07:02 PM, said:

4H shows slam interest in diamonds. I will bid 5H.

Perhaps that's the most logical explanation, but I wouldn't be too sure pard meant it as so.

Being so, I'll also "bid what I have." 6.
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Posted 2009-June-08, 15:19

Partner had a good hand w/Cl.
You made it even better with your 4D rebid.
I agree pard's 4H is an advance cue for Diam as trump, slammish.
S/he doesn't have much room for many, if any, spades.
Still, if he has just one , say: 1s, 2h, 4d, 6c
Something like:
x
A K
J T x x
A K J T x x

..... the grand isn't there unless they don't take their Sp Ace.

I'll just bid 6D ( because I'm a wimp ).

But I do like the 5H! bid, but will partner really bid his void in Sp
or 7D missing the 3 top honors ?

void
A x
J T x x x
A K J T x x
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Posted 2009-June-09, 05:31

Ok so Part 2---

Partner opens 1, rho preempts 3.

You hold:
Scoring: IMP
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What do you bid?
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Posted 2009-June-09, 06:14

Add 1: I had bid 6 club now

Add 2: Tuff problem:

You are too strong for 3 NT, wrong shape for double and raising and I would hate to pass. Okay, partner will reopen in 99 % of all cases, but what if he does not? (Must he reopen with say (KJxxx,xx,KQx,QJx)?).
So 4 club on THIS suit? A horror too.

I think I had passed and passed partners reopening double. This had lost only when he had passed 3 Heart, a small risk.
In the actual hand he had not doubled but bid 4 . I had tried 4 Heart and 6 over 5 .
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Posted 2009-June-09, 06:35

Part 2 looks to me like an easy 3NT.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2009-June-09, 06:38

Part 1: Whichever is pick-a-slam, I think 5NT. Btw I would play partner's 4 as CoG.

Part 2: 3NT, a bid heavy but after all half of my points are in hearts.
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Posted 2009-June-09, 07:24

@2:

I actually have 4NT = Quantitative available in my system, but I would still settle for 3NT.
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Posted 2009-June-09, 07:34

Part 1
I had bid ( the makable ) 6D in my previous based on my interpretation of the bidding.

Part 2
However, South was in the unenviable position after the 3H interference.
I don't think the 4C bid was "right".
3NT should have been the call. ( The preempt did it's job again ).
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Posted 2009-June-09, 07:48

5H and 3N for me.

4C is tempting but I think I need more stuff in clubs and diamonds for that.
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Posted 2009-June-09, 08:12

Jlall, on Jun 8 2009, 02:02 PM, said:

4H shows slam interest in diamonds. I will bid 5H.

I think 4 is coming (I hate that term) in a minor.

It's quite easy to visualize a grand opposite. Partner probably has A, AK.

I'm OK with 5N but I also like 5. I may hear about the A now.

4 is not a consideration.
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Posted 2009-June-09, 08:15

microcap, on Jun 9 2009, 06:31 AM, said:

Ok so Part 2---

Partner opens 1, rho preempts 3.

You hold:  <!-- ONEHAND begin --><table border='1'> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td> Dealer: </td> <td> North </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Vul: </td> <td> E/W </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Scoring: </td> <td> IMP </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> <span class='spades'> ♠ </span> </th> <td> A4 </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='hearts'> ♥ </span> </th> <td> AKJ </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='diamonds'> ♦ </span> </th> <td> J87 </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='clubs'> ♣ </span> </th> <td> K10432 </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td>  </td> </tr> </table><!-- ONEHAND end -->.

What do you bid?

1 (3) 4N (Pass)
6 AP
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