Favorite NT Defense Another Generic Poll
#1
Posted 2009-April-18, 21:02
What's your favorite defense against a Strong 1NT opening? Why? Does this change at IMPs or Matchpoints?
(Perhaps tommorow I'll make another poll for the Weak NT)
#2
Posted 2009-April-18, 22:10
x=long minor or both majors
2c=club and higher
2d=d and higher
2h=h
2s=spades
#3
Posted 2009-April-18, 23:27
I like the part where it can bid both 5-5 and one-suit hands accurately, and at the same time retain the penalty double.
#4
Posted 2009-April-19, 01:58
The latter has similarities with Suction:
x = penalty
2♣ = ♦ OR both majors
♦♦ = ♥ OR spades and a minor (I prefer 4♠+longer minor)
2♥ = ♥ + minor (I prefer 4♥+longer minor)
2♠ = natural
2NT = both minors OR very strong 2-suiter
Harald
#6
Posted 2009-April-19, 04:08
mike777, on Apr 19 2009, 05:10 AM, said:
x=long minor or both majors
2c=club and higher
2d=d and higher
2h=h
2s=spades
Isn't that just Meckwell?
#7
Posted 2009-April-19, 04:19
#8
Posted 2009-April-19, 05:10
Free, on Apr 19 2009, 05:08 AM, said:
mike777, on Apr 19 2009, 05:10 AM, said:
x=long minor or both majors
2c=club and higher
2d=d and higher
2h=h
2s=spades
Isn't that just Meckwell?
http://en.wikipedia....well_convention
As far as I know...the answer is NO.
But I did say very close
#9
Posted 2009-April-19, 05:29
hotShot, on Apr 19 2009, 11:26 AM, said:
Ditto
#11
Posted 2009-April-19, 08:20
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#12
Posted 2009-April-19, 08:45
I like natural with double being the majors against strong nt, and landy vs weak nt.
I have had particaularly good luck with 2♦ natural. It often gets them to wrongside the contract, and partner leads my suit on the go through the strong hand.
And 2♣ natural I also enjoy, but mostly because people look at partner and wait for the alert....and then ask...and then look confused by partner's answer. Our Spingold opponents actually looked at our card before the match and had a lenghty discussion about what they played over it.
#13
Posted 2009-April-19, 09:39
Various Defenses to 1NT
MONK is not listed there:
MONK= Major oriented NT killer
2♣= Both majors
2♦= One 5 card major + side 4+minor
2♥= 6+cards♥
2♠= 6+cards♠
Dbl= 5 card major (5332) OR strong hand OR one long suit minor
* 2♣ shows both majors, 5=4 or 5=5 or better. 2♣ is far preferable to 2♦ for this purpose, since partner can bid 2♦ (or double a 2♦ by opener's partner) to show no preference, equal major suit lengths. If he has a preference he bids it. This ensures the partnership will find the best fit when overcaller is 5=4 (when partner is 3=3 he bids 2♦).
* 2♦ shows a 5-card major with a side 4+ minor. Responses are somewhat similar to Multi 2♦ responses. The partnership uses pass or correct principles, and will usually respond 2♥ which is pass or correct to 2♠. 2♠ is pass or correct (and shows heart interest). 2NT asks for minor-suit, 3♥ is preemptive in BOTH majors. Other bids are natural.
* 2♥ and 2♠ are natural, and show 6+ cards.
That leaves hands with long minors, very strong hands, and 5332 major-suit hands. MONK uses Double to show one of those hands. Partner will usually bid 2♣ pass or correct, and overcaller will normally pass with clubs, bid 2♦ with diamonds, or bid 2♥/♠ with 5332 pattern. With a suitably strong hand, partner can convert the double to penalties. If overcaller has a very strong hand, he shows it by bidding 2NT or his suit at the 3-level. If responder bids before advancer, then any subsequent double by overcaller shows the strong hand.
#14
Posted 2009-April-19, 10:37
MarkDean, on Apr 19 2009, 09:45 AM, said:
I like natural with double being the majors against strong nt, and landy vs weak nt.
I have had particaularly good luck with 2♦ natural. It often gets them to wrongside the contract, and partner leads my suit on the go through the strong hand.
And 2♣ natural I also enjoy, but mostly because people look at partner and wait for the alert....and then ask...and then look confused by partner's answer. Our Spingold opponents actually looked at our card before the match and had a lenghty discussion about what they played over it.
This is what I teach to intermediates. Its a good way to wean them off of penalty doubles.
I like Woolsey.
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No, the double is penalty with multi-landy.
I've never seen MONK before, but it sounds like a strange cross between meckwell and woolsey, and I really don't like the double. It sounds very concocted.
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#16
Posted 2009-April-19, 13:31
DHL
#17
Posted 2009-April-19, 15:00
I also like, against weak NT, "leaping ripstra," meaning that 3♣ and 3♦ are three-suited takeout calls with that minor and both majors. It almost never comes up, but I like saying that I play leaping ripstra.
-P.J. Painter.
#18
Posted 2009-April-19, 15:52
dbl = 1-suited in hearts, or 5 hearts + 4 of a pointed suit
2C = 1-suited in spades, or 5 spades + 4 of a round suit
2D = 5S + 4D or 5H + 4C
2M = 4M + 5m
After double or 2C, step one (2C or 2D respectively) asks intervenor to bid his second suit or to rebid the major with a one-suiter. Step two (2D or 2H respectively) is to play opposite that suit, but not interested in the other possible side suit.
The idea is reduce the risk of having your 5-card major preempted by responder's competitive action. It's intended as a reasonably constructive method, so will probably not be favoured by most readers of this forum.
#19
Posted 2009-April-19, 16:37
#20
Posted 2009-April-20, 01:28
Against weak NT, some method where Dbl is *penalty*