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#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2009-April-15, 16:45

Scoring: IMP

1D!-(2D!!)-3D-(??)
4NT-(P)-5C-(??)
5D-(P)-P-(??)
 
1D!=4+c, can still have much longer 's
2D!=both majors (can be 4-4 and strength like an normal overcall)
5C=30/41
What bids do you choose?
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Posted 2009-April-15, 16:49

4, pass, pass.

On a good day,

4, 5, pass.
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Posted 2009-April-15, 23:01

4, X, X.

Might backfire, might be nescesary.
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Posted 2009-April-16, 01:52

4S, the alternative being 4D.

After that I have shown my hand and will pass.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: On reflection: I am not sure it is a good idea
to drive to 4S, because it is not clear, if they can
make something or if we can make 4S, so maybe
3S, planning to bid 4H later is a better plan, of course
the plan can backfire.
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Posted 2009-April-16, 02:34

Agree with the question marks.

At the risk of repeating myself, you can't expect us to be familiar with your favourite conventions to the point where our competitive judgment with regards to them equals or surpasses yours. You like playing 1NT=minors, 2m=raptor, cuebid=4-4 or better in the majors. The fact of the matter is that nobody else here has tried these conventions for even 1 session of bridge, so it can be expected that the advice you get here are not as accurate as it would have been had you said something like "michaels, intermediate+" or "michaels, any range" etc. Would you bid 2 on anything from KQxxx KQxxxx - xx to KJxx QJxx Axx xx? If the answer is yes, it is not easy to make a decision without being familiar with your partnership style, i.e. the relative probabilities of the first hand (where 11 tricks are easy and they probably make 5) and the second hand (where the 5 level looks too high for both sides).
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Posted 2009-April-16, 05:49

gwnn, on Apr 16 2009, 10:34 AM, said:

Agree with the question marks.

At the risk of repeating myself, you can't expect us to be familiar with your favourite conventions to the point where our competitive judgment with regards to them equals or surpasses yours. You like playing 1NT=minors, 2m=raptor, cuebid=4-4 or better in the majors. The fact of the matter is that nobody else here has tried these conventions for even 1 session of bridge, so it can be expected that the advice you get here are not as accurate as it would have been had you said something like "michaels, intermediate+" or "michaels, any range" etc. Would you bid 2 on anything from KQxxx KQxxxx - xx to KJxx QJxx Axx xx? If the answer is yes, it is not easy to make a decision without being familiar with your partnership style, i.e. the relative probabilities of the first hand (where 11 tricks are easy and they probably make 5) and the second hand (where the 5 level looks too high for both sides).

...seems you have a good memory...
You can call it bad Michaels (weak to intermediate with less distribution).
with KQxxx KQxxxx - xx or KQxxx AKQxx x Qx we bid 3D
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Posted 2009-April-16, 07:39

Assuming I understood the bidding correctly, I would bid 4D the first time (surely this shows at least 4-4 in the Ms). If this doesn't bring partner to do anything else I believe I have done my share... even if I double 5D I don't think I will be a rich man for doing it.... assuming it goes down that is :huh:

So, 4D! - P - P
It all makes perfect sense, expressed in dollars and cents.
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Posted 2009-April-16, 07:44

4, 5, N/A

If partner has the 4-4 majors hand (which you said is a good hand), he would have doubled 4NT. Therefore he has 5-5 and a weakish hand. If he could have less than 5-5 and a weakish hand then the methods are stupid IMO.
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Posted 2009-April-17, 02:49

Scoring: IMP

(1D)-2D-(3D)-3S
(4NT)-P-(5C)-All Pass

I thought to re-consider 5M when it was my turn after a 5D bid of LHO, but that didn't happen
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