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#1 User is offline   H_KARLUK 

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Posted 2009-April-12, 12:09

Scoring: XIMP


WEST     NORTH     EAST     SOUTH
                                             P
1♦          1♠             2♣         2♠
P            P              2NT        3♠
3NT        P               ?

Any possibility to take evasive action ? What would be your bid please?
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Posted 2009-April-12, 12:55

Evasive action? What are you talking about? I've described my hand, and partner bid 3NT to play. What am I supposed to be afraid of?

A reasonable hand for partner might be ♠QJx ♥Kxx ♦Axxxx ♣Ax.
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Posted 2009-April-12, 13:04

2NT?!?!?

Pass and take it like a man. -250 is good bridge.
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Posted 2009-April-12, 13:18

Presumably 2NT was "unusual", showing secondary diamonds with values to bid to the 3 level.
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Posted 2009-April-12, 13:21

2NT is almost as absurd as the idea of substitute definite articles in English. Anyway, yes, pass now, 4♣ when they double us, buy a beer for partner and tell him
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Posted 2009-April-12, 13:42

lol advanced and expert bridge.
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Posted 2009-April-12, 13:54

Quote

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LOL

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Advanced and Expert-Class Bridge

LOL

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2NT

LOL
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Posted 2009-April-12, 13:54

JLOL, on Apr 12 2009, 02:42 PM, said:

lol advanced and expert bridge.

Pretend you are a sub... Apoligize to partner and play the next hand. :ph34r:

Reel it in... You've caught a FISH! :lol:
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Posted 2009-April-12, 13:57

What, pray tell is 2nt?
You've already swallowed the hook, line and sinker :ph34r:
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Posted 2009-April-12, 15:42

Scoring: XIMP


NICKELL   DUBININ     LALL        GROMOV
WEST       NORTH        EAST        SOUTH
                                                     P
1♦              1♠               2♣            2♠
P                P                2NT           3♠
3NT            P                 4♣           All Pass

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Posted 2009-April-12, 15:49

That would be H Lall for the record, not me lol.
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Posted 2009-April-12, 16:13

H_KARLUK, on Apr 12 2009, 04:42 PM, said:

LALL

LOL
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Posted 2009-April-12, 16:32

I think it's quite sensible to play 2NT as both minors here. Without that agreement, East's hand is rather hard to bid. I bet this meaning comes up a lot more often than a balanced 11-count with a spade stop.

That doesn't mean it was right to do this without discussion opposite Nickell. Still, it's a bit surprising that he bid 3NT. Isn't he usually quite conservative?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-April-12, 17:08

Gnasher, I don't think it's all that sensible when you can just reopen with a double (when you're 35, and sometimes when you're 36), or with 3D (when you are 45, and presumably a forcing hand otherwise you shouldn't start with 2C).

Sure, on this specific hand 2N for the minors would be nice, but I think it's very desirable to be able to bid 2N with a spade stopper and still be able to get out below game. I think it's clear to just reopen with 3C and hope for the best.

Of course thinking that 2N minors here is a standard bid is LOL.
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Posted 2009-April-12, 23:16

WTF.
I'd pass and if they double I run.
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Posted 2009-April-13, 06:11

petergreat, on Apr 13 2009, 12:16 AM, said:

WTF.

Well Said!
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Posted 2009-April-13, 14:04

"Dad, what is 1D 1S 2C 2S p p 2N"

"minors"

"LOL"

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