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Defense against SUCTION over a natural 1[CL]

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Posted 2009-March-20, 15:24

Does anyone have a suggested defense against SUCTION over a natural 1♣ opening?

I assume SUCTION means:

(1♣) 1♦ = either hearts or spades and something
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Posted 2009-March-20, 16:40

Normally, suction show either the suit above, or the 2 suits below. In this case ♥ / ♠+♣.

My advice is to just ignore they bid and play your usual schemes. Or Double a lot to let them show what they have. After that, pick up the auction from there. Suction at low levels isn't a really big problem imo, especially if it's done without much distribution (so opps can't preempt heavily).
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Posted 2009-March-20, 17:07

Assuming that the suit bid is one that the bidder cannot have (which is normal in Suction) you can use double as a balanced hand with power, and otherwise just ignore the bid and bid naturally.
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Posted 2009-March-27, 04:53

You need some decent agreements in place as the overcallers partner will be preempting to the level of fit. You may find the auction is quickly at the 3 level with opps in a known 9 or 10 card fit, from where it is difficult to judge 3N or x for pen or game in a strain. Slam hands are less tricky funnily enough. Since the suit is not held: you have double and NT available as distinctly different meanings, and also 2♣, if 1♣ rarely natural.
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  Posted 2009-March-27, 07:20

I tend to play two bids as the one under xfers, and the one bids as the two suiters, and use transfer Leb and our unusual vs. unusual defense as appropriate.
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Posted 2009-March-27, 12:54

I like playing against Suction strictly because it's much rarer to be able to jump to 3fit. You need a fit for two suits to pull it off, and frequently the second suit is at the 4 level, so it had better be a GOOD fit.

As I have said before, I want my suits to be known; the ambiguity doesn't hurt the clubbers as much as people think, but taking up space does. Strangely enough, I'm happier to be playing "ambiguous suits" vs a Polish/Swedish club, where more often than not, we're in a partscore battle (the system I use now is from one of B-Z's cards; I figure if they have a defence to Polish Club, it's probably been tested a bit. X=H, D=S; 1M, 1NT CRaSh, all bids 8-15.)
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