[MarkDean]

Scoring: XIMP

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You pass in second seat - feel free to comment.
Partner opens 1♦ in fourth, RHO overcalls 1♠.

What is your call?

[655321]

w/r, both majors, nice 5431 shape and 11 HCP.

Abstain, because I wouldn't have considered passing here.

[jdonn]

I wouldn't have passed first, although I understand. But how can you not bid hearts now??

[CSGibson]

2♥

[neilkaz]

2♥ now of course ! I'd open this hand also playing with most PD's that I'd want to play with.

[mtvesuvius]

2♥, once again I see no alternative. I think this is a wtp 1♥ opener, however, playing Standard Systems I suppose I might be able to partially symathize with pass.

[MFA]

2♥ is clear. Could be talked into 2NT if my minor suits were a bit different.
I have no problem with the first pass.

[matmat]

2♥?

[hanp]

Playing with Mark I would definitely pass this hand in second seat, not even close. 653321, if your partnership opens these hands, fine, but is it that hard to imagine playing with an old guy like Mark who opens solidly? The abstain seems unnecessary, especially since it is such an obvious 2H bid now.

[Fluffy]

second position is the soundest position for opening, this is a clear pass if you don't play big club system.

now I really see no alternative to 2♥, WTP comes to mind. No matter if you play this 10+ or 7+, its the right bid.

[655321]

hanp, on Mar 1 2009, 08:41 PM, said:

Playing with Mark I would definitely pass this hand in second seat, not even close. 653321, if your partnership opens these hands, fine, but is it that hard to imagine playing with an old guy like Mark who opens solidly? The abstain seems unnecessary, especially since it is such an obvious 2H bid now.

OK, 2♥ now.

Actually, do you vary your style playing with different partners? I find that I always play the same way. If I do play with a conservative partner I accept that - partner bids as he thinks best, and I don't expect him to change his style. And similarly, a conservative partner will expect me to open more hands than he would.

(Sorry for the thread creep.)

[the hog]

2H. I don't mind the pass as the stiff K carries little weight.

[andy_h]

2H definitely. We've even got a great suit.

[hanp]

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Actually, do you vary your style playing with different partners?

Absolutely, how light I open depends on my partner, and also on the system I play with the partner. My overcalling style also varies.

[whereagles]

Would have opened, but not bidding 2♥ now is complicating what is simple.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

I think pass is fine, at leats I would not have opened
the hand.
Now you should introduce the heart suit, the only issue
is how.
You can either make a neg. X or bid 2H.
I could lve with both, but most likely I would make the
neg., the adv. being, that I may be able to show the
secondary diamond support later, ... but may not be able
to show my strength.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[dicklont]

First pass is ok.
Now 2♥, which shows 10+ and five hearts.
How much better would you have your hand described?

Maybe you can show the spades later with 2 or 3 NT.
The secondary diamond support is not relevant yet, but maybe later.

[MarkDean]

Wow, I figured I would be in the minority, but not to this exent.
Here are my thoughts:

If partner has 3 hearts, 3NT may play better: there are potential ruffs lurking, and it is unlikely to need too many ruffs in partner hand. Of course, this could be bad if partner is 1354. Furthermore, I feel that after a 2♥ call I could be in a weird spot next round. Do I bid game over 3♥? What do I do over 3♣?

If I double, I can still reach 4♥ opposite 4 (and possibly rightside it if a ruff is coming), and can hopefully bid 2NT next round.

Crazy?

As to opening, I think I am the more aggressive player in this partnership. Partner passed KQJT T98xx Kx Kx earlier in the set, in first seat.

[skjaeran]

Would have opened 1♥. Now I bid 2♥.

[jdonn]

MarkDean, on Mar 2 2009, 02:07 PM, said:

If partner has 3 hearts, 3NT may play better: there are potential ruffs lurking, and it is unlikely to need too many ruffs in partner hand. Of course, this could be bad if partner is 1354. Furthermore, I feel that after a 2♥ call I could be in a weird spot next round. Do I bid game over 3♥? What do I do over 3♣?

If I double, I can still reach 4♥ opposite 4 (and possibly rightside it if a ruff is coming), and can hopefully bid 2NT next round.

You are over-thinking a very simple situation.