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Precision SAYC or 2/1?

#21 User is offline   Gerben42 

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Posted 2009-February-26, 11:10

2-over-1 showing 10+

Rules:

* 2NT is always GF
* Raising opener's 2nd suit is forcing
* Raising responder's suit is forcing
* Rebidding 3m is nonforcing after opener's possibly minimum rebid
* Rebidding the opening suit shows a minimum (NF)
* Giving preference on the 2-level is NF
* Raising a nonforcing 2M to 3M is invitational

Convention after 2NT (GF):

1M - 2x
2NT (GF) - 3 (asking bid)
3: Balanced, 3-card x
3: 14 - 16, 6M
3: 16 - 19, 6M, not so good suit
3NT: Balanced, 2-card x

Respond 1NT on 10-11 hands that do not have a rebid after a minimum from partner, i.e.
X KTxx QJx KQxxx bids 1NT after 1.

Some schemes:

1 - 2 - ?

2: Forcing, possibly min.
2: Minimum
2: Reverse, 14+
2NT: GF, good 14 upwards, natural or 1-suited
3: Forcing
3: Good 5-5
3: Good suit, 16+

1 - 2 - 2 - ?

2: Preference, NF
2: 4th suit GF
2NT: GF, waiting bid
3: To play vs minimum
3: Forcing with fit
3: Invitational

1 - 2 - 2 - ?

2: GF reverse
2NT: GF, waiting bid
3: To play
3: GF, reverse
3: Invitational
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Posted 2009-February-27, 10:58

Gerben42, on Feb 26 2009, 12:10 PM, said:

2-over-1 showing 10+

Rules:

* 2NT is always GF
* Raising opener's 2nd suit is forcing
* Raising responder's suit is forcing
* Rebidding 3m is nonforcing after opener's possibly minimum rebid
* Rebidding the opening suit shows a minimum (NF)
* Giving preference on the 2-level is NF
* Raising a nonforcing 2M to 3M is invitational

Convention after 2NT (GF):

1M - 2x
2NT (GF) - 3 (asking bid)
3: Balanced, 3-card x
3: 14 - 16, 6M
3: 16 - 19, 6M, not so good suit
3NT: Balanced, 2-card x

This seems to have been written for a standard system. Are there any adaptations for limited openings?

I suppose it's possible to just scale down the HCPs in case of the jumps, but there are other sequences that would be awkward...
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  Posted 2009-February-27, 20:48

I've of the play standard over Precision versus 2/1 GF because of the many bad results I had with a 10 opposite 12-13. :-)
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Posted 2009-March-02, 07:40

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This seems to have been written for a standard system. Are there any adaptations for limited openings?


I guess I would start playing 1M - 2x - 3x as nonforcing and replace the big 1-suited hand in 2NT with the forcing unbalanced raise.
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