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What do you bid? Do you agree with the bidding so far?

#1 User is offline   OleBerg 

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Posted 2009-January-13, 06:47

IMP's, all red:

Pass - (2♥) - Pass - (4♥)
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Posted 2009-January-13, 06:52

4♠. This shows (well, if it works out, lol) why a 2nd seat preempt is less effective than a 1st seat preempt - my failure to open means that my 4♠ bid must be based on something like this (or a ♠+m two-suiter if that is not in our preempt structure).
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Posted 2009-January-13, 07:43

Paaaaaasss. I would need to be at least 5-5, if not 6-5 to act with these values at these colors. WvR and 4♠. looks to be more attractive.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 08:05

Pass! Partner could still have 5♥ and want to X! Only when partner has something like AKx xxxx Kxxx xx might this work. I'm probably gonna get pumped in hearts, and I have no minor suit spots. Finally, it's IMPs... -1100 is not a pretty score, granted this be a double game swing, but I see no reason to guess with this miserable hand.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 08:08

I strongly prefer double to 4S, I don't consider pass an option.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 08:09

Yes... I could understand X, but certainly not 4♠...
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Posted 2009-January-13, 08:30

I'd double. It's unlikely that defending 4♥ undoubled is the best we can do. Of course, there's no guarantee that double will lead to the best action for our side either, but it at least improves our chances.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 08:31

Yes, Double, as I can find myself in trouble if I find partner with 3 trumps only.
Pass is no option for me either even at this colours.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 08:57

Dbl. Perfect with a passed hand.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 09:41

I'd bid 4♠ if I had 6 card minor (maybe 5 card as well). But with 3 suiter if will have to be pass or double. This needs some table feeling, with no read I will pass because our quaky honnors won't do very good defending.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 09:57

Double, but not ideal with the soft values.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 10:05

Unhappy double. Unhappy because if partner passes I am lacking in tricks.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 10:15

I double as well, but only because one of my New Year's Resolutions was to find new ways of going for numbers.. my guess is that double gives us a choice between -1100 and -1280. However, partners keep telling me that the glass is half full.. maybe, this time, it is.

The good news is that it may be a push.

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Posted 2009-January-14, 03:56

Full hand:

Scoring: IMP

This is also the hand from the thread: "What do you bid? And how strongly do you feel it's right?"

The board created many different results, and many swings.

I found it kind of funny, that at one table N-S would bid 2♠-4♠ without interference, while at another table, E-W would bid 2♥-4♥ without interference.

What happened at my table is a closely guarded secret.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:

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Posted 2009-January-14, 22:36

Double. Shows this shape (approximately).

I still think 4♠ shows a 2 suiter, but others disagree.
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