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No perfect rebid What's the least evil?

Poll: What's your second bid after: 1H-1S; 2D-?? (36 member(s) have cast votes)

What's your second bid after: 1H-1S; 2D-??

  1. 2H (9 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  2. 2NT (14 votes [38.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.89%

  3. 3C (6 votes [16.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

  4. 3D (5 votes [13.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.89%

  5. 3H (2 votes [5.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.56%

  6. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 2008-November-29, 20:00

Scoring: MP

Opponents silent. 3♣ (4SF) would be forcing to game.

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Posted 2008-November-29, 20:22

This one's easy: 2NT. Pard will bid 3♠ on the way to 3NT if he's got 3 cards. If bidding NT on weak black holdings annoys you, you can try 3♦ instead.

If pard is the sort of person who always tries for 3NT, you can also try the immaginative 3♥ bid.
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Posted 2008-November-29, 20:33

Whereagles convinced me, though I would have used the 4th suiot forcing... C'mon I have 11 HCP which are like 14 in this sequence...

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2008-November-29, 21:29

2♥ for me. Wimpy, but bidding 2NT directs us towards what will often be the wrong game (and the opponents will have no trouble finding the right lead). Occasionally a 2♥ rebid misses a game, but some of these 26 hcp with no fit and no stopper games don't make anyway.
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Posted 2008-November-29, 23:44

I would bid 3♦.
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Posted 2008-November-29, 23:55

whereagles, on Nov 29 2008, 09:22 PM, said:

This one's easy: 2NT. Pard will bid 3♠ on the way to 3NT if he's got 3 cards.

I'd be inclined to rebid 2♠ as opener with a 3-5-4-1 minimum at matchpoints.
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Posted 2008-November-30, 01:28

Lobowolf, on Nov 30 2008, 07:55 AM, said:

whereagles, on Nov 29 2008, 09:22 PM, said:

This one's easy: 2NT. Pard will bid 3♠ on the way to 3NT if he's got 3 cards.

I'd be inclined to rebid 2♠ as opener with a 3-5-4-1 minimum at matchpoints.

That's why partner will rebid 3♠ with three of them over 2NT; he's got extras and will accept the invite.
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Posted 2008-November-30, 01:43

skaeran, on Nov 30 2008, 02:28 AM, said:

Lobowolf, on Nov 30 2008, 07:55 AM, said:

whereagles, on Nov 29 2008, 09:22 PM, said:

This one's easy: 2NT. Pard will bid 3♠ on the way to 3NT if he's got 3 cards.

I'd be inclined to rebid 2♠ as opener with a 3-5-4-1 minimum at matchpoints.

That's why partner will rebid 3♠ with three of them over 2NT; he's got extras and will accept the invite.

I, as "partner," will bid 2♠ at my second turn with three spades, rather than 2♦; not 3♠ at my third turn over 2NT on the given auction.
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Posted 2008-November-30, 01:54

Lobowolf, on Nov 30 2008, 09:43 AM, said:

skaeran, on Nov 30 2008, 02:28 AM, said:

Lobowolf, on Nov 30 2008, 07:55 AM, said:

whereagles, on Nov 29 2008, 09:22 PM, said:

This one's easy: 2NT. Pard will bid 3♠ on the way to 3NT if he's got 3 cards.

I'd be inclined to rebid 2♠ as opener with a 3-5-4-1 minimum at matchpoints.

That's why partner will rebid 3♠ with three of them over 2NT; he's got extras and will accept the invite.

I, as "partner," will bid 2♠ at my second turn with three spades, rather than 2♦; not 3♠ at my third turn over 2NT on the given auction.

So would I, with a minimum. With extras, I would rebid 2♦ and support spades next.
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Posted 2008-November-30, 04:51

All my cards look to be working well here. I don't mind forcing to game on this one: 3C.
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Posted 2008-November-30, 07:24

2♥ for me, willing to miss some games in order to often play the best partscore. I am not as optimistic about missing my 26 HCP games as Adam, but this is still my choice.

3♦ puzzles me at matchpoints. Josh, did you see the form of scoring? I think the losses from 3♦ on our partscores are too great to seriously consider this call.
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Posted 2008-November-30, 07:32

3 ♣, soemtimes you have to make game with 12 opps. 11 HCPs.
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Posted 2008-November-30, 09:06

2NT, wtp?
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Posted 2008-November-30, 09:45

rogerclee, on Nov 30 2008, 08:24 AM, said:

2♥ for me, willing to miss some games in order to often play the best partscore. I am not as optimistic about missing my 26 HCP games as Adam, but this is still my choice.

3♦ puzzles me at matchpoints. Josh, did you see the form of scoring? I think the losses from 3♦ on our partscores are too great to seriously consider this call.

Games score well at mps too! I actually would prefer 3♥ except that it essentially precludes 3NT, which is too big of a loss for me.
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Posted 2008-November-30, 21:02

3D or 3H for me. I've got some cool cards. I'd probably end up choosing 3H.
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Posted 2008-November-30, 22:13

2♥

P may open with Rule of 20.
♠Jx ♥ AJTXX ♦ QTXX ♣ KX

or ♠Qx ♥ AJTXX ♦ QTXX ♣ KJ

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Posted 2008-November-30, 23:18

Lobowolf, on Nov 29 2008, 09:00 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

Opponents silent.  3♣ (4SF) would be forcing to game.  



If playing with a good , long term, partner in general, I really want to know what a minimum game force hand by responder looks like. Yes, I can always upgrade or downgrade based on fit, just let me know what a minimum game force hand looks like in general.


2h if partner opens lite
3c if partner opens sound.
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Posted 2008-December-01, 00:29

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Lobowolf, on Nov 29 2008, 09:00 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

Opponents silent.  3♣ (4SF) would be forcing to game.  



If playing with a good , long term, partner in general, I really want to know what a minimum game force hand by responder looks like. Yes, I can always upgrade or downgrade based on fit, just let me know what a minimum game force hand looks like in general.


2h if partner opens lite
3c if partner opens sound.

Your partner probably opens something like 85% of her 12-point hands and 15% of her 11-point hands, using reasonable judgment to evaluate them based on intermediates, distribution, and prime values.
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Posted 2008-December-01, 00:41

As you would bid 2H with the AJ of D removes, 2H cannot be the right bid now. I will bid 3H on this - yes, I know that is not ideal, but I prefer this to 2NT or 3D
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Posted 2008-December-01, 00:43

3♣ for me.

Yes, a small overbid, but nothing else is attractive, and this is likely to get us to the best strain.
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