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#1 User is offline   zzmiy 

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Posted 2008-November-28, 04:31

You hold a nice hand
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What would you rebid?
1) Opps're silent
1♦ - pass - 1♠ - pass
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2) Opps decided to help(?) :)
1♦ - pass - 1♠ - 1NT (4+♥, 5+♣)
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Posted 2008-November-28, 05:01

Google "Bridge World Death Hand".

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Posted 2008-November-28, 05:05

Maybe I should have opened 2♣. I think I'd rebid 3♦ or 4♦ in both cases (though I could pass 1NT...)

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2008-November-28, 05:08

barmar, on Nov 28 2008, 11:01 AM, said:

Google "Bridge World Death Hand".

To be fair, the BWDH is usually 3-6 in partner's suit and your suit, or sometimes 3-7. 2-8 is a new one for me.
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Posted 2008-November-29, 16:56

Still another case for the forcing jump rebid of a minor suit.
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Posted 2008-November-29, 18:04

You guys make heavy weather of a simple hand. Just rebid 5♦ and concentrate on the play ^^
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Posted 2008-November-29, 19:47

ArtK78, on Nov 29 2008, 05:56 PM, said:

Still another case for the forcing jump rebid of a minor suit.

Uh, yes, you will find many a great hands to recommend strange methods on a forum of bidding problems!

whereagles, on Nov 29 2008, 07:04 PM, said:

You guys make heavy weather of a simple hand. Just rebid 5♦ and concentrate on the play ^^

The play will be easy, partner has the king of spades and ace of hearts. It's the post mortem I'm going to have to focus on since partner will think I'm an idiot.

To this day I bid 3♣, and to this day I've never ended in clubs after doing that. Well ok, I don't really bid 3♣ since like most of us I have a special method to handle it.
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Posted 2008-November-29, 20:20

jdonn, on Nov 30 2008, 01:47 AM, said:

It's the post mortem I'm going to have to focus on since partner will think I'm an idiot.

maybe he's right? :rolleyes:
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Posted 2008-November-29, 20:41

whereagles, on Nov 29 2008, 09:20 PM, said:

jdonn, on Nov 30 2008, 01:47 AM, said:

It's the post mortem I'm going to have to focus on since partner will think I'm an idiot.

maybe he's right? :rolleyes:

Of course he is, I rebid 5♦!
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Posted 2008-November-30, 05:47

Someone may as well provide the "normal" answer of 2♥
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Posted 2008-November-30, 13:01

shevek, on Dec 1 2008, 12:47 AM, said:

Someone may as well provide the "normal" answer of 2♥

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Posted 2008-November-30, 21:42

Outside HCP list :
♠KJ
♥AQJ
♦Q
♣AKQJ
Total 23 HCP
Dealer has ♠AQ-♥KXX-♦AKJT eight times and void ♣ 17 HCP

1 ♦ >1 ♠ I would try to judge so :
Visualisation may not easy by both sides, so better to make best guess. Partner's ♣ holding is immaterial, the real matter is to find 2 entries and cover cards there.

Say p has ♠Kxxx and ♥Qxx. Is this his best minimum? Well I do not think so.

In a good day for 5 ♦ :

♠Kxxx- ♥ QJx ♦ x ♣ I do not think even ♣ A helpful.
At best may concede 2 reds. (♥A and offside ♦ Q at least 3 times.)

So I rebid 3♦. Maybe this conservative approach keeps options open. I respect post, anyway I wld open 2 ♣.
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Posted 2008-December-01, 03:51

Thanks all for the answers.
Funny to realize now that we have forcing rebid for ♣s in our system, but no such bid for ♦s :)

Another couple of questions
- if opps bid 1NT showing 2-suiter(what actually happened at the table) what would your 2♣ bid mean?
- And if after bidding 2♣ you rebid diamonds?

P.S. 7♦ was cold, but both tables played 6♦+1 :)
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