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#1 User is offline   Flame 

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Posted 2008-November-19, 07:11

This is a theoretical question.
Do you think its possible to have a branch of bridge on which there should not be given pre-disclosure, meaning you will tell your opponents about the bid partner made only after she made it. Or maybe even no disclosure at all ?
I think it is possible and could be interesting and fun maybe mostly for young players who suppose to have good memory and some spare time.
Basically it will bring some homework into the game.
What do you think ?
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Posted 2008-November-19, 07:34

I played in an event like that yesterday. It was an ACBL-BBO speedball. The opponents had sayc convention cards, but freely used their own conventions and carding agreements without telling us. I found it more annoying than fun.
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Posted 2008-November-19, 09:00

It's called "kitchen bridge". :D
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Posted 2008-November-19, 09:09

"No disclosure" would mean that you should make bidding and carding agreements that are difficult to decrypt. For example udca in the pointed suits and std in rounded suits if vul, otherwise the opposite. I think it would be quite exhausting.

No pre-disclosure would be more interesting. But again, I think I prefer bridge.
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Posted 2008-November-19, 13:47

No predisclosure is normal bridge. Club pairs, 2 boards a round, and a waste of time to study convention cards. ( Assuming your opps are one of the few that have them.)
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Posted 2008-November-19, 19:52

I would find such a game to be fun, personally. I would also enjoy no disclosure as to carding, and anything goes as to bidding and carding. Won't happen, but I would enjoy it.
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Posted 2008-November-19, 20:18

I could see it deteriorating to something like happens on Yahoo Spades.

"Don't play against these two, they are a partnership and have played before."
"Yeah. They must be cheating."

As far as I understood it, Spades *is* a partnership game. But apparently, people that play together a lot are considered cheats.

Basically, I can imagine something like it in person, but think it would be awful online.
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Posted 2008-November-19, 21:08

no disclosure bridge is what most of bbo plays anyway... or maybe that's no agreement bridge... i forget...
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Posted 2008-November-20, 00:59

How would you ever hope to separate private tells --cheating from 'just chose this time'?

Accused would have no documenting of agreed methods. How could they defend break in tempo intended an unusual play?
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Posted 2008-November-29, 19:35

If you are looking for something "fun" try what used to be known around here as "Call Bridge." It is normal bridge except the bidder can add one word to his call. Examples:
One Roman Spade
Two Polish Diamonds

For system nerds, it can be great fun.
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