[mr1303]

If I have a group of 8 friends that I want to play team games with, why shouldn't I start up another one once the first one has finished?

[H_KARLUK]

1) http://en.wikipedia..../Bidding_system

2) Better to finish one then start 2nd teams.

I saw some intentionally misuse there, i laughed a lot. B/c obviously sign of inferiority complex.

Somebody knows people run for 1st available tournaments. If their limit is increased while the other TD unable to create 2 tournaments or 2 teams same time; they do such a trickery TO MAKE MOST CROWDED TOURNAMENT ( B L A H B L A H) :

They create a sudden 2nd quickie tournament within 10 mins starts while their main and first created tournament is behind their opponent (rofl) target TD on field. Then when people begins to register and see at least 10 tables they delay starting time.

This is just a "disrespect" to players. It seems some crew thinks more tables = more successfull vision. Haha. Formats always "unclocked", short playing times and boards.. Unbalanced and impossible to test real winners.

I still laugh; such crazy crew must feel happy. No matter good tournament conditions formed. They did a trick and felt superior, it's enough.

They only need something to cover their weakness temporarily. Pity.

It is just laziness. I have no idea why they simply ignore LUSOBRASIL notes. There tournament formats and their means clearly described.

All bridge players are ambitious and they deserve better conditioned free tournaments. Unfortunately there is a minority who disrespects th others; they shld be eliminated by system soon or late.

I cannot think the unpaid tours as a "pastime". Perhaps my words will interpret "complicated".

We will see if my thoughts are worthwhile and an issue that people will "mobilize" around or not.

[jillybean]

H_KARLUK, on Oct 27 2008, 03:51 PM, said:

It is just laziness. I have no idea why they simply ignore LUSOBRASIL notes. There tournament formats and their means clearly described.

Hey Hamdi,

Check again what LUSOBRASIL says about psyches.

[jikl]

I have had enough of this silly discussion, Hamdi will obviously laugh and claim some sort of victory. He is proclaiming he will change the world, is an expert on all systems, and ignores all contrary opinions.

Sean

[H_KARLUK]

jillybean2, on Oct 28 2008, 06:40 AM, said:

Hey Hamdi,

Check again what LUSOBRASIL says about psyches.

http://forums.bridge...showtopic=16194

35 and 36 telling abt psyches.

Let's check together theory and practice are same in a running online tournament or not.

Too many complaints abt psyches. Players mostly agreed general idea is live and let live. At least my attendants like to see reasonable calls and card plays. Online games are not high class contests of duplicate bridge.

Do you mean dear Lusobrasil's all principles applying in the field and only items 35 and 36 skipped?

It's a clocked event and i do not want extra work. 7 or maximum 8 minutes per board online tournaments really hard to convince players when an unusual thing appears.

I want to keep the unity of room. Tding should not mean "Subbing quickly".

[jillybean]

H_KARLUK, on Oct 27 2008, 10:07 PM, said:

It's a clocked event and i do not want extra work. 7 or maximum 8 minutes per board online tournaments really hard to convince players when an unusual thing appears.

TD'ing is work, the players would benefit from education rather than changing the rules, but this is a very old argument. Enuff said!

[H_KARLUK]

True, really enough said.

It seems you are loyal (!) Lusobrasil Online Td training session 1 and 2 notes

Anyway, i see you playing as a host.

Okay let's check together what lectured there. I was there and still remember. They are also still posted on forum.

"45. Playing director"

It is impossible to direct a high-quality tournament while also playing. Many tournament situations require that the director be at the table where the situation takes place, in order to create the proper resolution. However, a playing director can take some steps to make the tournament as enjoyable as possible for the players and for him/herself:

a. (*very important) Allow only a small number of pairs to play. I recommend no more than 14-16 pairs if the tournament is clocked, or 20 pairs if the tournament is unclocked. This will reduce the number of problems that require the director’s attention, which also means you can concentrate more on playing.
b. Do not allow the players to chat to the tournament. While it may be annoying to receive a director call while playing, it is the only method by which a player can tell you something in private. The alternative of allowing players to chat to the tournament can lead to arguments in tournament chat that the director is unable to properly resolve, because the director can not go to the table to resolve anything.
c. Try to offer all of the services that a non-playing director would offer, including board adjustments. It may be best to announce that all boards will be adjusted immediately after you play your last board of the tournament

http://forums.bridge...showtopic=13117

Humanizing the TD job is the way to go on these matters.

Do not, please...
1 - Run tourneys on "no adjustments".
2 - Run tourneys on "Playing TD". It is enough work already to run a proper tournament, and if you want to play just join one of the hundreds of events always going on
3 - Run "automatic penalty of this or that". Automatic things make me nervous, because if you say that you are automatically doing something you unhumanize the job and dont get space to be tolerant when required.
4 - Run "no psyches" unless eventually it is a tournament geared for beginners or a very specific audience. He who never sinned (psyched) throw the first stone...

Do, please...
Run nice and fair events, properly cared for, with polite and competent TDs


http://forums.bridge...showtopic=12986
Playing TDs?
lusobrasil This brings an other important issue
lusobrasil Playing TDs...
lusobrasil It is a practice here, but it poisons the integrity of the competition....
lusobrasil A playing TD cant make adjustements, cant see unfinished boards in time, cant get timely information from players
lusobrasil Even if they adjust in the end, the players will be gone
lusobrasil and the competition will be meaningless most of the time because whenever someone is in trouble he just lets time run out...
lusobrasil But for a minimally serious tourney... Please, dont drink and drive..

and this is one of forum member's view abt th issue. I won't call it "th world" like somebody really no big deal for me. It is unnecessary to convince friends and fill th forum pages.

asabr Posted: Aug 8 2007, 10:25 AM

If you command yourself playing tourney, what can you do for adjustment? Noway or you have a chance ! If you may play table which need adjustment board, you can do it! But if you arent on that table? Want to help the players for you! How? Say them "DONT FINISH PLS LAST BOARD! Because i should have adjustment in your tables, Wait me and dont Worry For time!, I will add enough time!

http://forums.bridge...showtopic=16194

Finally I saw "wbf rules".. Lol. Are you sure meant this one: http://www.worldbrid.../onlinelaws.pdf

OMG.

[H_KARLUK]

I like well organised movements that helps to improve the game standards. Coincidentially i surfed somewhere "BBO TDs Coalition" and liked too much. Seems not active nowadays. If I am wrong please correct. I wonder that story.

Thank you very much.

[jillybean]

I know, I know. I shouldn’t be doing this but I just cant help myself.

Hamdi,

I play in most of my tournaments and there is no doubt about it, I would be more effective as both a player and a TD if I didn’t. I keep my tournaments small and restricted in an attempt to minimize the problems I have to deal with. If players don’t quit and they alert when they should there are few problems for the TD to handle.
I do however adjust boards, visit tables, chat in private with players – I use a second Id to do this. Obviously I cant visit a table or talk about a hand if I haven’t already played the board in question, it rarely creates a problem. If I do by accident, see a hand I adjust the board A+- in favor of our opps – I have had to do this once.

My reference to WBF rules isnt a joke, the reason I state this is that I allow players to use Multi. Other than this, I try to follow the laws of DCB. Is it perfect? No but Im not claiming it is nor am I trying to convince the rest of BBO to do it my way.

Good luck with your tournaments.

[Michele13]

I am reading this string and shaking my head...why is it so obsessively important to have one-size-fits-all tournaments? Life (and bridge) is about choices. You choose the tournament you want to play in...you choose the contract..some are good, some are not so good and that's the way we learn and hopefully, don't make the same mistake twice.

Some BBO tourneys are for chatty, social fun and others are deadly serious.
Some TD's are geniuses and others are less...Some have rules that are different from others...some have restrictions as to level,country, language, whatever. Choosing to play in a tourney is also choosing to accept that specific tourney's rules.

We play different systems and meet different players...like in real life sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't. We just then move on...

I see BBO as this huge global bridge playing village and like any self-respecting village, it will have a few idiots. That's life! So be it... but variety IS the spice of life and for variety, BBO is very hard to beat.

[jtfanclub]

H_KARLUK, on Oct 27 2008, 03:09 AM, said:

There should be no difference between online and "s e r i o u s" live tournaments.

The Addicts games are designed to have the activity and serious level of a club social game. More serious than games where you can ask your partner what a bid means, less serious than a club championship.

I don't think any of the free tournaments are as serious as even a nonserious live tournament. Even the ACBL pay tournaments are designed to be as 'serious' as a serious club game, and aren't designed with the seriousness of, say, a District tournament. There's no Appeals committee, for example.

[H_KARLUK]

Nov,25 tuesday 2008

Believe or not :

One of long years friend who lives and works away homeland invited a 4 brds MPs here. 8 mins per board, clocked.
1st board righty started 3 mins late. P asked host. Was a very slow game, anyway finished brd on black flashing clock when as an opp i claimed!
2nd brd lefty was not in mood either bid or card play. Again P asked host, at th moment he joined. Is it fixed th problem? Nay. Another 3 mins gone.
We bought th contract. I sent a private msg : " If available pls stay here and rule." I expected host will sub very slow player, but he didn't.
He stayed at table, saw lho does not have a deal worths to think when their side very weak. Anyway, they got 60% ! I did not want to ask adj while host saw everything with his eyes from start to end. No need to talk ears deaf like a wall.
Fortunately 3rd brd opp was really nice. When her P started to live connex trouble immediately asked for a sub. I couldn't believe my eyes, newcomer was speedy.
Last board, I was declarer, last 2 mins p crashed as dummy. Host immediately subbed him without asked. Lol.
If anyone defends "acceptable" I ve no words!