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What are your experiences with prism signals? Are/should they be legal? I am looking to learn these signals but am not sure as to how beneficial they will be...
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Posted 2008-August-16, 00:36
franklin24, on Aug 16 2008, 04:23 AM, said:
What are your experiences with prism signals? Are/should they be legal? I am looking to learn these signals but am not sure as to how beneficial they will be...
If you just mean Vinje's trump signal (where you signal your distributional pattern - 3 suits with an odd number of cards and 1 suit with an even number or vice versa), of course that should be legal. There's no sane reason why not.
If you don't have any 'tools' for using these signals, they're pretty demanding. You'll spend a lot of time and energy on adapting the received information to something meaningful for the actual hand. I guess this will be far easier with practice.
However, some people have extended on this idea, and discovered that there are relationships between the four hands on any deal, and that you can use dummy as a 'prism', to put together the information you have, and more easily learn more about the two unknown hands. See http://www.prismsignals.com/.
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Posted 2008-August-16, 03:57
Two people I know tried it before. They ended up with pen and paper beside them while they were playing.
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Posted 2008-August-16, 10:03
I think the idea is sound and worthwhile, but it takes a better memory than mine. The published treatise over-elaborates, but a couple of years ago I spent some time with ice packs to head working it all through.
I've never played them (both sides of a partnership would need to have nothing better to do with their lives) but I have tried to work it out when playing, saying "if we were playing it, what would partners sequence mean?" and found that halfway through a hand I was struggling to remember dummy's and my initial distributions, as well as still trying to remember what had gone in all the suits. OK if you are allowed pencil and paper as an aid to calculation, but you are not.
If you've got the memory to cope with it all, and it's not taking you ten minutes a hand, it's got to be worth it. And yes, perfectly legal, there's no hidden information.
I've never played them (both sides of a partnership would need to have nothing better to do with their lives) but I have tried to work it out when playing, saying "if we were playing it, what would partners sequence mean?" and found that halfway through a hand I was struggling to remember dummy's and my initial distributions, as well as still trying to remember what had gone in all the suits. OK if you are allowed pencil and paper as an aid to calculation, but you are not.
If you've got the memory to cope with it all, and it's not taking you ten minutes a hand, it's got to be worth it. And yes, perfectly legal, there's no hidden information.
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Posted 2008-August-16, 11:44
To the best of my knowledge, Vinge trump signals are acbl GGC-legal. However, I am under the impression that Prism Signals (author: John Sheehan- darn good player) are seen as being encrypted and as not being acbl-legal.
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